LilOlLady's Everlasting Gobstopper Illegal Immigration Thread

[topspin]

Any baby born here has always been a citizen since the 14th, regardless of the racist objections.

 

[Truthmatters]

they sure do hate the constitution

 

[LilOlLady]

the number of people smoking won't go up because it's legal, in fact the number driving likely will go down as it will be harder for kids to get it. Not that you'd understand granny.

Then there will be those illegallly pushing drugs to chldren. Kids are not the ones driving while under the influence. Legalize the drug will cause people to more likely to drive under the influence. Kid will find a way just like they get cigarettes and booze. They will get it from home like the get pills also.
Legalizing it will not stop it. Since booze have be legal, more are drinking because it is easy to get. Same will be with drugs.
cocaine, meth, heroin, pills and party drugs are still out there and pusher will still push and make money.
I think I understand. Sonny boy

 

[Bullfighter]

the number of people smoking won't go up because it's legal, in fact the number driving likely will go down as it will be harder for kids to get it. Not that you'd understand granny.

Then there will be those illegallly pushing drugs to chldren. Kids are not the ones driving while under the influence. Legalize the drug will cause people to more likely to drive under the influence. Kid will find a way just like they get cigarettes and booze. They will get it from home like the get pills also.
Legalizing it will not stop it. Since booze have be legal, more are drinking because it is easy to get. Same will be with drugs.
cocaine, meth, heroin, pills and party drugs are still our there and pusher will still push and make money.
I think I understand. Sonny boy

"What a wonderful world!"
Louie Armstrong​

 

[LilOlLady]

Legalize pot and watch the power of these cartels die.

Pot is not the only drug coming across that border. Legalize pot and watch auto accidents go up. I don't want to share the roads with a bunch of high pot smokers.

Chances are you already do.

I probably do and don't want more of them.

 

[LilOlLady]

ANCHOR BABIES NOT U.S. CITIZENS.

No matter how much you may want them to be, they are not U.S. citizens according to the 14th Amendment. Children born to illegal aliens are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, but to the country their parents are citizens of.

Even legal immigrant’s American born children are not U.S. citizens. Not until born after one of the parents become U.S. citizens. Children born before their parent were citizens will have to apply for citizen and not automatic given citizenship when their parent become citizens.

There is nothing racist, hateful or bigoted about this, this is just the law under the 14th Amendment. It is not racist, bigoted or hateful to want the 14th Amendment correctly applied. It does matter how it is interpreted and applied. About 500,000 and billions of dollars. A costly mistake the U.S. taxpayers is paying for. and this refuse is getting old.

This issue is not going away, so don’t hold you breath

You are wrong on the law, LilOldLady.

Then enlighten me Mad.

 

[LilOlLady]

The University of Uncertainty
Va. Children of Illegal Immigrants Lack In-State Status

High school senior Nelson Lopez says he can't afford out-of-state rates, so he applied only to state schools in Virginia. (Photo: Richard Lipski/Post)
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Nelson Lopez of Alexandria was born in this country, but his parents are illegal immigrants, so the University of Virginia informed him that he is not eligible for in-state tuition. (By Richard A. Lipski -- The Washington Post)
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By Susan KinzieWashington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 14, 2008
When Nelson Lopez applied to Virginia colleges this year, it never occurred to him that he might not be considered a state resident. After all, he has lived in the state since he was a baby, holds a voter registration card and will graduate this spring from an Alexandria high school.
Then last month, he got an e-mail from the University of Virginia: If he wanted to be considered an in-state student, he had to prove that his parents are in this country legally.
Lopez, 18, was born here -- he's a U.S. citizen. But his parents are illegal immigrants.
In the years since a huge wave of immigrants began pouring into the country, their U.S.-born children are graduating from high school and finding that citizenship may not be enough.
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The University of Uncertainty - washingtonpost.com

 

[LilOlLady]

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[topspin]

I see a law suite coming on this one kid wins.

 

[topspin]

adults are more likely smoking in the home just like drinking. Do some drive? Yes

 

[LilOlLady]

i see a law suite coming on this one kid wins.

maybe and maybe not. Depends on the law

 

[topspin]

He's a us citizen so he can't be here illegally. Now I can see how they might not give him financial aid since that's parent releated.

 

[LilOlLady]

14th Amendment: Is birthright citizenship really in the Constitution?

Congress could deny birthright citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants, say some experts. But others believe that changing citizenship policy requires changing the 14th Amendment.

The House Judiciary Committee Ranking Republican Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Tex., speaks during a news conference on Capitol Hill, in Washington on Aug. 10. “We do not need to amend the Constitution to end birthright citizenship,” he said Tuesday.
Drew Angerer/AP

Section 1 of the 14th Amendment begins this way: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
The key phrase here is “subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” say some experts.
Illegal immigrants are not subject to US jurisdiction, in the sense that they cannot be drafted into the US military or tried for treason against the US, said John Eastman, a professor at the Chapman University School of Law, in a media conference call Monday. Their children would share that status, via citizenship in their parents’ nation or nations of birth – and so would not be eligible for a US passport, even if born on US soil, according to Dr. Eastman.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politi...hright-citizenship-really-in-the-Constitution

 

[LilOlLady]

WHAT THE 14TH DOES NOT SAY.



The 14th Amendment does not say; “anyone who is born in this country is (automatically) an American citizen” If that was the case, children born in this country to foreigners, aliens, ambassadors, or foreign ministers would automatically be American citizens and they are not.

"This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the family of ambassadors, or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons."



What the 14th Amendment to the constitution DO say is:

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside“.



If “subject to the jurisdiction” if left out of the clause it changes the whole meaning.

Who are the subjects of a foreign power? Thomas Jefferson said “Aliens are the subjects of a foreign power.” Thus, the statute can be read as “All persons born in the United States who are not aliens, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States

http://federalistblog.us/2007/09/revisiting_s...
The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - interpretations and misinterpretations - US Constitution


Another thing is anchor babies are always referred to as “punishing infants” Surprise, surprise. Those “infants” are members of gangs dealing drugs, drive by shootings, burglarizing home and cars and terrorizing neighbor hoods, and our prisons are filled with them. And since they are illegally considered “American citizens’ they cannot be deported. And almost every illegal alien family have at least one anchor baby who is a criminal.

YOU CANNOT TAKE SOMETHING AWAY FROM SOMEONE THAT THEY NEVER HAD. US CITIZENSHIP.

 

[Father Time]

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Why would Mexico give a damn about what some random American citizens think?

 

[Bullfighter]

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Why would Mexico give a damn about what some random American citizens think?

Why was Seinfeld's Kramer made to apologize to the monkey who spit on him?

 

[LilOlLady]

Can you imagine that one day one of those anchor babies who are protesting for illegal aliens and amnesty, etc may well be President and sympathetic to Mexico,etc. And there is a good change they would be elected because or other anchor babies and those illegal given amnesty.

I know some of you say we are all anchor babies but children of illegal aliens who stole into this country and used false or stolen documents in order to work, etc, A total nightmare. We are not all anchor babies.

Don't people know that immigranst of old came through Ellis Island and had to register and some were not allowed in? Before that there were no immigration laws.. And the difference now it the amount of illegal immigrants.

 

[Mr. H.]

I'd vote for this anchor baby:

 

[Tom Clancy]

Who cares?

The thing that matters is that he was born here.

And honestly, I'm pretty sure there have already been "Anchor Baby" Presidents.. How so? Well, most ancestors were Immigrants who weren't Citizens.

So, your point?

 

[driveby]

Can you imagine that one day one of those anchor babies who are protesting for illegal aliens and amnesty, etc may well be President and sympathetic to Mexico,etc. And there is a good change they would be elected because or other anchor babies and those illegal given amnesty.

I know some of you say we are all anchor babies but children of illegal aliens who stole into this country and used false or stolen documents in order to work, etc, A total nightmare. We are not all anchor babies.

Don't people know that immigranst of old came through Ellis Island and had to register and some were not allowed in? Before that there were no immigration laws.. And the difference now it the amount of illegal immigrants.

Some say our current one isn't even an anchor baby.......