The UKIP Insurgency

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    Bagehot: The UKIP insurgency | The Economist

    If UKIP can finally get the Tories to embrace Euroscepticism and a referendum then that would be a great victory for them. It also goes to show that the "lesser-of-two-evils" argument is nonsense on its face, and that rewarding a party with your vote just because they might be better than the alternative simply reinforces their negatives. That's a lesson we could stand to learn here in the U.S.
     
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    The UK isn't the only country in Europe that's seeing a rise in the popularity of nationalist groups of course.
     
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    True, but the great thing about UKIP is that they can't really be dismissed as simply being "racist."
     
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    UKIP are hardly a 'nationalist' party.... they are a patriotic party - they want Britain to be independent from Europe. To a large extent, I agree with them.
     
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    I confess pretty much total ignorance on the UKIP.
    They seem to make a lot of people nervous though.
     
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    The answer is that UKIP represents a mjority of British people but they have little chance with the current voting sytem . The choice is to pick from 3 parties none of whom have the guts to give the people a vote on the EU.

    In the 1970's the Brits voted to enter a Common Market not a federal state.

    We now have an EU President, Van Humpy Pumpy or something, who voted for him ?

    More seriously is the imposing of leaders on sovereign states by the EU
    and even more frightening is the assumption by the EU of the power to overule British courts.

    Were you aware that the EU accounts have not been signed for over 10 years, it stinks.

    The rise of nationalism is a concern but this should not be classed as racist , it is simply patriotic.

    Bill
     
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    The Conservatives are worried about UKIP... who are conservative but anti-Europe... and tend to take votes away from the mainstream conservatives every time they put up a candidate. They are much like our Libertarians. Their leader - Farage - is a twit.... unfortunately.
     
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    I'm a card-carrying member of UKIP. And I've got a UKIP sticker stuck on the inside of our car's rear windscreen, too. They're not the single issue pressure group the British media make them out to be and nine out of a group of the Tories' most prolific donors switched over to UKIP after they, like me, got sick and tired of Cameron's empty promises of a referendum on the UK's membership of the EU. They and I want the UK to severe all links with Brussels and invite responsible European states into a less controlling and [less] centralised alliance. Not a reincarnation of the cancerous EU, aka the 'Fourth Reich'.

    Check-out their manifesto. Basically we're patriotic conservatives who object to selling Britain down the river.
     
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    Nobody in any EU constituency voted for him. He was assigned the position by the Eurocrats in Brussels.
     
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    If I were Brit, I'd probably vote UKIP.
     

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