The Truth about the "Gleiwitz Incident"

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    More Myths About The Origins of World War 2

    We’re often told that Hitler started World War II. The reality is not so simple. In early 1939, Hitler asked Poland’s leaders for a peaceful resolution of the long-standing Danzig issue by permitting the city-state to return to Germany, in accord with the wishes of its people. But the Poles rejected a diplomatic solution, confident that they would prevail in any armed clash, and emboldened by a British pledge of military support in case of war. In the months that followed, tensions between Germany and Poland worsened, with growing violence against Poland’s ethnic German minority population. As the outstanding British historians A. J. P. Taylor and B. H. Liddell- Hart, along with other scholars, have pointed out, Hitler did not want and did not prepare for a general war in 1939. He sincerely sought peace with Britain and France. US President Franklin Roosevelt secretly encouraged Britain, France and Poland to adopt belligerently anti-German policies, and to reject any peaceful resolution of the German grievances. The British and French declarations of war against Germany transformed a limited German-Polish conflict into a global war. As often happens in history, leaders in all the major countries involved badly miscalculated in 1939.

    Source link: http://ihr.org/mwreport/2012-03-07

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5vbimOjjvM]The Truth about the "Gleiwitz Incident" by Mark Weber, February 29th, 2012. - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    THE GLEIWITZ INCIDENT
    Nazi Plot or Allied Cover-up

    It is now commonplace for accounts about the beginning of the Second World War by professional historians and others to mention the alleged “false flag” attack on the German radio station at Gleiwitz on the night of August 31, 1939. There are many variations of the story, but generally it is said that a Nazi-organized gang, masquerading as Poles, raided the station, broadcast a provocative message over the radio, created a bit of mayhem and left at least one dead victim on the spot as evidence of Polish aggression.


    The German invasion of Poland on September 1, 1939 marked a tragic new phase in relations between the two countries, relations poisoned for twenty years with problems created by the Treaty of Versailles imposed by the victorious Allies in 1919. Under the Treaty, Germany was cut in two by the transfer of large swathes of territory, including the Polish Corridor to Poland. This left well over a million more Germans under Polish rule ( in addition to the German minorities in the former Russian and Austrian parts of Poland. In many areas they formed the majority of the population. Germany was further diminished in the East by the creation of the “Free City” of Danzig, almost wholly German but included within the Polish Customs frontier and subject to Polish control of it's river and railways system, foreign relations and diplomatic protection services.

    After a century and a half of Prussian, Austrian and Russian domination, the Poles revelled in their newly won independence after 1918, quickly asserting their nationality and culture. Despite provisions in the Treaty for protecting minority rights, the Germans in Poland were subjected to expulsion, discrimination, violence, boycotts and the undermining of their economic organizations, schools and churches. Their plight is rarely acknowledged or even mentioned today.

    Source link PDF book: http://zioncrimefactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/The-Gleiwitz-Incident-Nazi-Plot-or-Allied-Cover-Up-Steven-Books.pdf

    Another good read about the origins of World War Two, The Forced War by David Hoggan: http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/David%20Hoggan-The%20Forced%20War.pdf

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmVLOm3b5-Q]Mark Weber Report: Some Myths About the Origin of World War II. (Part 2 - 4) - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8drjm-awXNI&feature=relmfu]Mark Weber Report: Some Myths About the Origin of World War II. (Part 3 - 4) - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    The Myth Of German Culpability
    The 2nd World War
    The True Sequence Of Aggression


    One of the great mysteries of life is that despite the evidence to the contrary millions of otherwise intelligent people still believe that Germany was the all powerful aggressor during the 2nd World War. Nothing better than these myths illustrate the mind-bending power of propaganda.

    The provable facts suggest that Germany was the victim and not the perpetrator of naked neighboring aggression. The subsequent allied military triumph was followed by the triumph of the propagandists whose pressing need was to depict the victor nations as being the victim.


    THE BRUTISH (British) EMPIRE

    "Germany is too strong. We must destroy her."
    - Winston Churchill, Nov. 1936.

    "In no country has the historical blackout been more intense and effective than in Great Britain. Here it has been ingeniously christened The Iron Curtain of Discreet Silence. Virtually nothing has been written to reveal the truth about British responsibility for the Second World War and its disastrous results." - Harry Elmer Barnes. American Historian

    "The war was not just a matter of the elimination of Fascism in Germany, but rather of obtaining German sales markets." - Winston Churchill. March, 1946.

    "Britain was taking advantage of the situation to go to war against Germany because the Reich had become too strong and had upset the European balance." - Ralph F. Keeling, Institute of American Economics

    "I emphasized that the defeat of Germany and Japan and their elimination from world trade would give Britain a tremendous opportunity to swell her foreign commerce in both volume and profit." - Samuel Untermeyer, The Public Years, p.347.

    On September 2nd 1939 a delegate of the Labour Party met with the British Foreign Minister Halifax in the lobby of Parliament. 'Do you still have hope?'he asked. 'If you mean hope for war,' answered Halifax, 'then your hope will be fulfilled tomorrow. 'God be thanked!' replied the representative of the British Labour Party. - Professor Michael Freund.

    "In Britain, Lord Halifax was reported as being 'redeemed'. He ordered beer. We laughed and joked." - H. Roth. Are We Being Lied To?

    "In April, 1939, (four months before the outbreak of war) Ambassador William C. Bullitt, whom I had known for twenty years, called me to the American Embassy in Paris. The American Ambassador told me that war had been decided upon. He did not say, nor did I ask, by whom. He let me infer it. ... When I said that in the end Germany would be driven into the arms of Soviet Russia and Bolshevism, the Ambassador replied: "'what of it? There will not be enough Germans left when the war is over to be worth bolshevising." - - Karl von Wiegand, April, 23rd, 1944, Chicago Herald American

    GERMANY AND OTHER FREE COUNTRIES ATTACKED

    Poland carried out the first acts of aggression. In March 1939 Poland, already occupying German territory 'acquired' in 1919 invaded Czechoslovakia. During the months running up to the outbreak of war Polish armed forces repeatedly violated German borders. On August 31st 1939 Polish irregular armed forces launched a full scale attack on the German border town of Gleiwitz.

    Within hours Germany retaliated resulting in Britain and France's declarations of war on the German nation on 3rd Sept 1939. In Britain's case this declaration of war was constitutionally illegal. It was not as it should have been ratified by parliament.

    Despite her borders being constantly attacked by the numerically superior armies of France and England, and economically strangled by world finance, Germany refused to be drawn, negotiated for peace and turned the other cheek for ten months.

    Only when it accurately learned that England intended to broaden the western front by occupying the Low Countries and Norway, thus surrounding and threatening Germany's entire borders, did Germany carry out a pre-emptive strike.

    "I felt sorry for the German people. We were planning - and we had the force to carry out our plans - to obliterate a once mighty nation." - Admiral Daniel Leahy; U.S Ambassador

    Source link: The Myth Of German Culpability
     
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    Yes, of course. Adolph Hitler was just misunderstood and really only wanted to live in peace with his neighbors. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    Poor Germany....Mean old Poland was picking on them
     
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    Ah, now what about the OP's posts suggested to anyone that s/he/it could be a Nazi apologist?
     
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    And his proudly-cited source for this stale decomposing tripe is..........................RENSE.
     
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    Of course Hitler is inappropriately maligned in the history books. He was a vegan and loved animals, and those people, as we all know, are peace-loving hippies.

    Wait, hippies drove Volkswagens. I'm beginning to see a connection.
     
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    Damn, the murder of 3 million Jews was just a tragic phase in the relationship between Germany and Poland.
     

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