Truthspeaker
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Have you ever lived in Utah?
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Have you ever lived in Utah?
The problem I have with LDS, is the enormous amount of money they poured into my state to pass Proposition 8.
What's up with that?
Piece by piece he was given the rites and ordinances necessary and eventually was commanded to lead God's restored church. That is the doctrine.
If Mormons want to baptize me after I'm dead and cremated, so be it. I'll already be in my next incarnation so it doesn't matter to me.
The motivation for the after death baptisms seem harmless enough to me.
I understand why people would be angry with us for our general opposition to gay marriage. That is our stance because we believe homosexuality is a sin that can be repented of and beaten, never to be tempted with it again, by applying the atonement of Christ in their lives.
I always find it so funny when someone gets "excited" to talk to a Jew about religion... lol... to me it's obviously no biggie given I'm pretty much surrounded by other jews, some of whom know a lot about our religion, some of whom know nothing about our religion and some, like me, who know a little about our re,ligion.. .and appreciate the things I get from it. I'll tell you the truth, though, I appreciate the whole chosen people thing, but I don't really subscribe to it because a) I think we're all loved equally; b) I think we all have an equal shot at paradise if we do good things; c) I find that the "chosen" thing has been used more to our detriment by people who hate us than for good, so I think it's fairly dangerous to either be treated as "chosen" or believe we're chosen.... particularly if, as in some branches of christianity where being chosen means dying fighting the anti-christ.
I find all peaceful beliefs interesting....
And I understand what you're staying about the baptisms... but we really don't like it. And I happen to know that right now there's a dialogue going on between some of our orthodox community and your leadership where it will hopefully stop where we're concerned. It's kind of a biggie to us.
Pleasure to meet you, btw.
Occham's razor, dude. I'm sure that's the story promoted by the church, but the symbols happen to be identical to those used in freemasonry, and the explanations given in the temple are virtually identical, as well. The simplest explanation is likely right. Smith must have been a very charismatic sort of con man, at the least. And of course, since members of the LDS church are discouraged from becoming freemasons these days, they are unlikely to discover the truth.
If Mormons want to baptize me after I'm dead and cremated, so be it. I'll already be in my next incarnation so it doesn't matter to me.
The motivation for the after death baptisms seem harmless enough to me.
For what length of time, not counting the MTC?
Doc Grump--
What makes Mormons a cult?
Mountain Meadows massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wyhat does the LDS teach you about the Mountain Meadows Massacre?
It certainly is harmless. But if someone tells us not to perform the ordinance on them or their family while they are alive, then we will honor their request.
So you say, but I think I know a little more about my religion than you do. there are definite differences between the symbols the masons use and the ones we use. and different meanings. some are the same, some are not.