The Super State

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    Last September.....some of North America’s most powerful political, business and military leaders quietly gathered at the Banff Springs Hotel in Alberta for three days to hammer out the details on how to create a North American superstate.

    The only member of the media invited to attend this North American Forum was a reporter from the Wall Street Journal. No other media were told the meeting was taking place.

    ........the guest list included then-US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Canadian Chief of Defence Staff Gen. Rick Hillier, United States Northern Command (NORTHCOM) Commander Tim Keating, Canada’s Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day and Lockheed Martin executive Ron Covais. Hosted by the Canadian Council of Chief Executives (a group of Canada’s richest 150 CEOS), the North American Forum involved some of the most prominent figures in Canada, the US and Mexico.

    But in addition to not letting anyone know about the gathering, once it was discovered, those involved have refused to reveal what was even discussed.

    .......However, thanks to freedom-of-information requests obtained by Judicial Watch, a Washington-based legal watchdog, the forum’s agenda shows the group was looking at how they could merge the three countries into a North American Union: a monolithic super-state that would look similar to the European Union but without the referendums, elections or balance of power.

    .....“The Banff meeting was an extraordinarily important meeting and was all about the integration of Canada with the United States: politically, economically, socially, [with the] harmonization of standards and values,”......

    http://www.ceocouncil.ca/en/

    ...................CCCE chief executive Thomas d’Aquino – a fishing buddy of US President George W. Bush – penned two documents under the North American Security and Prosperity Initiative (NASPI), which declared, “Economic integration is now irreversible, but in the wake of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, it also has become clear that North American economic and physical security are indivisible.” It asserted that 9/11 had locked the two countries in an arranged marriage from which neither could escape.........

    ............What should have just been a pair of innocuous discussion papers by a special interest group became the blueprints for the coming superstate. The CCCE documents would be cribbed almost word-for-word by North America’s three governments in March 2005 when Canada’s then-Prime Minister Paul Martin, Mexico’s then-President Vincente Fox and Bush met in Waco, Texas and announced the similarly-titled Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) – a plan critics have called “NAFTA on steroids.”...........

    http://www.spp.gov/

    While North America’s politicians work to erase barriers between the three countries, critics of the intense integration are especially troubled that none of the policy changes are being debated in a public forum. Despite its far-reaching implications, the SPP has not been brought before Canada’s Parliament nor America’s and Mexico’s respective congresses. Instead, the three governments are simply allowing the continent’s biggest corporations to set the agenda.

    As if to emphasize this point, during the second SPP summit in March 2006 in Cancun, Mexico, the three countries announced the creation of the North American Competitiveness Council (NACC), a tri-national working group made up of 30 of the top corporations in the continent, which would have a special seat in the SPP.

    The NACC includes the ceos from such multinational corporations as Lockheed Martin, General Motors, Chevron, Wal-Mart, Bell Canada and Canfor. No labor, social or parliamentarian group from any country has ever been invited to join their discussions.

    The abdication of powers to big businesses and the lack of transparency have created growing dissent in all three countries from activists who fear for the loss of sovereignty.

    Curiously, while the opposition to the SPP is led by left-wing groups in Canada, the primary opposition in the US is led by protectionist conservatives. Right-wing pundits such as Phyllis Schlafly and CNN’s Lou Dobbs have become ferocious opponents of the secretive agreement, while Republican legislators at both the national and state levels have tabled resolutions opposing the SPP.......



    http://adbusters.org/the_magazine/7...ca_The_Stealthing_of_a_Future_Superstate.html

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20060919&articleId=3274

    http://joshmanicus.blogspot.com/2006/10/deep-integration-continental.html

    http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/cgi/page.cgi?zine=show&aid=469&_id=27

    http://thetyee.ca/News/2006/10/12/Forum/
     
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    There is no question that the North American Union is on the discussion agenda of influential people. Sometimes, Japan and Australia are included in the concept of an American-Pacific super state. An emerging super state is hiding under the table of the illegal immigration debate. Some think that the NAU can out compete the EU and China, because it will increase resources and workers. A super state involving all of North America would have about 450 million people. If it included Japan and Australia, about 600 million. Those who dismiss such a long-term possibility may end up on the wrong side of history. Contemporary national economies and standards of living are under siege by the forces of globalization. The questions are these: what will be the new form of the nation-state, and what economies will combine?
     
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    make sure to bring all that up in your NEW WORLD ORDER speach this election season..

    I hear right wingers cream themselves silly over topics like that..


    especially the evangelicals.
     
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    Personally, I was under the impression that Canada was a part of the United States...
     
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    Is this a beneficial thing for the US? To have one continent under God'
     
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    I have little problem with Canada joining, Nor Japan or Australia, Mexico would have to be conditional. There would have to be set requirements to eliminate corruption and Drug running in EACH individual State inside Mexico before I would treat them as equals.

    It is a moot point though, I seriously DOUBT any of the mentioned Countries has any desire or intent to merge with the United States OR any other Country. And I fail to see any serious effort by any serious politician or block of same advocating any of them join the US.
     
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    Its a corporate merging of the countries, one big continent where they can operate without worrying with boarders and other beaurocratic bulloney.
     
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    Wasn't that NAFTA?
     
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    "What should have just been a pair of innocuous discussion papers by a special interest group became the blueprints for the coming superstate. The CCCE documents would be cribbed almost word-for-word by North America’s three governments in March 2005 when Canada’s then-Prime Minister Paul Martin, Mexico’s then-President Vincente Fox and Bush met in Waco, Texas and announced the similarly-titled Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) – a plan critics have called “NAFTA on steroids.”

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    Well gee if it is all a done deal, whats the point?
     

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