Discussion in 'Politics' started by ScreamingEagle, Apr 9, 2010.
I'd say we're getting into the second half of Stage 2...
We've been headed down this road for a long time. It didn't start with this current President. George Bush opened the door and the Democrats have now kicked it down. It really is sad.
It started when we established a military with health insurance, police officers, BLM land, firefighters, etc etc.
Our founding fathers set the foundation when they established many of the Land Ordinances, setting up schools, and land plots for veterans of the Revolution. We have always had socialistic programs in our country,get over it.
Actually I think TR to a degree, opened that door. FDR knocked it off its hinges, LBJ blew the wall down.
Now it's going full force.
Are you really arguing that our Founders were socialists 100 years before socialism began to be taught?
The invented socialism what with all that General Welfare and Domestic Tranquiity crapola.
Socialism might not have been named yet or taught, but it's ideas have been around for a long time.
In China I cannot remember how far back exactly, but it was before the last dynasty, had shared land during certain periods. Someone might have named concept, but it is nothing new.
The Equal-field system was introduced into practice around 485 AD by Emperor Xiaowen of the Northern Wei Dynasty, a non-Han kingdom in North China, during the Northern and Southern Dynasties period. The system was eventually adopted by other kingdoms and its use continued through the Sui and Tang dynasties
The system was intended to foster the development of land and ensure no agricultural land lie neglected, to prevent the aristocratic and powerful families from developing large power bases by monopolizing the fields, and to allow the common people to get a share of land to ensure their livelihood. From these, the government could develop a tax base and slow down the process of land accumulating into vast, untaxable estates of the powerful elites
Equal-field system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Like I said, the ideas are not new.
The ordinance was also significant for establishing a mechanism for funding public education. Section 16 in each township was reserved for the maintenance of public schools. Many schools today are still located in section sixteen of their respective townships, although a great many of the school sections were sold to raise money for public education.
In theory, the federal government also reserved sections 8, 11, 26 and 29 to compensate veterans of the Revolutionary War, but examination of property abstracts in Ohio indicates that this was not uniformly practiced. The ordinance also said “That three townships adjacent to Lake Erie be reserved, to be hereafter disposed of by Congress, for the use of the officers, men, and others, refugees from Canada, and the refugees from Nova Scotia, who are or may be entitled to grants of land under resolutions of Congress now existing.“ This was not possible, as the area next to Lake Erie was property of Connecticut, so the Canadians had to wait until the establishment of the Refugee Tract in 1798.
Land Ordinance of 1785 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This is why America needs to better update our educational system, so that idiots can properly understand what, among others things, what socialism is, as if socialism type programs policies were nonexistent in this country before Obama. When people aren't properly educated, idiots like Limbaugh, Beck, Malkin and the scum at Foxnews can swoop down and take advantage of the minds of uneducated people and produce a nation of misfits. When I say education I don't mean college degrees I meant it by knowing what the hell is going on from your own mind and understanding and seeking out knowledge.
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