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gop_jeff said:Wow! Is that you?
Said1 said:Thanks, I think this one came out ok. She sounds a lot like Joss Stone, to give you an idea. Wow, holy off topic!
deaddude said:and because of that they are all terrorists?
deaddude said:and because of that they are all terrorists?
Kathianne said:Usually I'm ok bright, I'm lost on this...
Said1 said:Do you think he's talking about my avatar?
Kathianne said:Now I'm really messed up!
Good point, the Wahhabi party dismayingly scored highest in Saudi Arabia's recent elections. They have been grafted with the prevelant royal house of Saud since before the American Revolution, through the thick and thin of more than 250 years. It would take a while for their influence to diminish, even if there was not the other problem of royal absolutism.gop_jeff said:Wahabbi Islam, the violent sect of Islam founded in Saudi Arabia in the 18th century, is the source of much of the violence in Islam. The influence of Wahabbism is spreading because its roots are in the country that houses the two most sacred cities in Islam: Mecca and Medina. Couple Wahabbism with the pan-Arab Nationalism that is so rampant in the Middle East, and you've got a breeding ground for terrorism.
Right: Democracy is the first answer, and the ultimate answer, together with freedom of religion.How do we counter this? First, eliminate the repression in the Middle East by encouraging (or establishing, in the case of Iraq) democracy. Second, allow freedom of religion, so that radical imams don't have control over what religious speech is tolerated or not. Again, such freedoms can only be guarnteed under a democratic/republican form of government.
Stitchman said:They practice the Islamic faith, but you dont see them bombing government buildings!
The "innocents" might not bomb government buildings themselves, but they readily contribute to Muslim fundraising groups worldwide to make it possible for the Muslim terrorists to have the means/resources to blow up the buildings and kill innocent people in their war against the "decadent" West. Even though they might not be the warriors themselves, they know what they are contributing their money for.
Said1 said:No, she's a fabulous Canadian singer, Amanda Marshall. She's adorable, but the photo is too small, so I took it off.
Adam's Apple said:Could have fooled me. I thought it was Jennifer Lopez. Marshall looks more like JLo than Linda (JLo's sister) does.
Confusion is a better path to wisdom than certainty. Although both Islam and Christianity have nice things to say about non-violence, actual practice of non-violence in both is limited to a few fringe sects. I'm not preaching non-violence here - and I'm pretty sure you aren't either. Both Christianity and Islam permit struggle against evil. One man's jihad is another man's crusade. Most Arabs seem to believe that they are being attacked by atheistic, Western imperialism. Even the non-radical majority see their religion at the core of legitimate resistance (that's a similarity with the Poles). The head of our army intelligence for the cetral command area, Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin has voiced similar opinions from the Christian side:Kathianne said:I'm confused, should the Catholic Church in Poland have fostered acquiescence to the Nazis and Communists? Then it would have been non-violent?
mrsx said:Confusion is a better path to wisdom than certainty. Although both Islam and Christianity have nice things to say about non-violence, actual practice of non-violence in both is limited to a few fringe sects. I'm not preaching non-violence here - and I'm pretty sure you aren't either. Both Christianity and Islam permit struggle against evil. One man's jihad is another man's crusade. Most Arabs seem to believe that they are being attacked by atheistic, Western imperialism. Even the non-radical majority see their religion at the core of legitimate resistance (that's a similarity with the Poles). The head of our army intelligence for the cetral command area, Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin has voiced similar opinions from the Christian side:
He told Baptists in Florida about a victory over a Muslim warlord in Somalia, who had boasted that Allah would protect him from American capture. "I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real god and his was an idol," Gen Boykin said.
On tour he uses a photograph of the Somalian capital Mogadishu bearing a strange dark mark, which he says shows "the principalities of darkness. . . a demonic presence in that city that God revealed to me as the enemy".
His explanation for our problems with Islam, "Our enemy is a spiritual enemy because we are a nation of believers. . . His name is Satan."
My point is not the validity or usefullness of Jerry's observations, just that any religious person is going to see political and military events in religious terms. I wouldn't blame the Holy Koran for al Qaeda any more than I would blame the Bible for Boykin's crusade.
Stitchman said:you guys can go on having your own opinions, but please do not discriminate against muslims because of this. Also, Islam is not founded on fear and violence. Islam is really a normal religion, but people like you think that Islam is the real reason that american soldiers are dying in Iraq. That is not true. An example is all of the Islamic people in america. They practice the Islamic faith, but you dont see them bombing government buildings! you are an ignorant
No one would be able to appreciate the beauty of that avatar in Islam, since she'd be in a burka!!!
and because of that they are all terrorists?