The President and Democrats are insane

[Meister]

The Job bill

Close tax loopholes for certain companies, and give the money in the form of tax credits to companies Obama likes. Its called spreading the wealth.

Spend money on infrastructure means let's give the unions more kick-back.

Spend money on unemployment. Its called spreading the whealth.

Spend money to replenish the states. Transfering whealth from the private sector to government.

This Bill sucks azz, but Obama says if congress doesn't pass it now they're unamerican. The bill is unamerican.

This also takes more power away from the states. Eliminate state's rights and make them dependent on the feds.

Like the House bill to let concealed weapons permits to carry in any state?
Even states that do not want the bill?

Your equating a weapons permit bill to this?

 

[Moonglow]

The socialist dimwits true goal is federal gov't. control.

Yes socialist want that, but Obama is no socialist.

Yes he is.

How many industries has he nationalized?

 

[blastoff]

and the republicans have offered what to increase jobs?

Tax cuts, so they can tip the pool boy extra on their vacation.

Well except at our club 2-3 of them are black and a few females too so they're all referred to as pool attendants. And yes they all do well with tips on a daily basis and at the end of the season members can contribute to a collection that's then divided equally among them.

 

[FuelRod]

Democrats are crazy in thinking they have a chance in November of 2012. They have lost historic party strongholds since Obama took office. Things are not getting better. There answers are tired and old.
The party line to defeat GOP contenders is social non-sense issues.
There idea of hope and change is nothing but "Yes but."
It's a long goodbye for the President at this point.

 

[Meister]

Using the logic of the OP which I can agree with to a point, the GOP must also be insane. Their solutions are also redundant failures as real life facts clearly show. All those tax cuts and bending over to businesses and yet where are the jobs?
Neither party seems to come up with solutions on their own, basically because they walk lock-step with their ideological philosophy. Neither offers any flexibility to changing times or changing problems.
This is why non-partisan compromise is certainly needed.
Our government needs to address todays issues like successful businesses address changing times in the marketplace. In order for a business to succeed, they adjust their approach. They field many ideas from many angles and come to a solution. It requires an open-mind and flexibility with the goal being success for the business. There's no room for individual gains when the success of the company is the main goal.
With our current political parties, it's all about the next election and getting the upper hand. If businesses were run like our current political structure runs our country, businesses would fail time after time.
It's time for putting party/ideology first to end. Otherwise, the US will continue it's downward spiral. The only way the US is going to reverse it's slide is through open-minded compromise, realizing past mistakes and learning from the past mistakes.

The answer sure isn't with raising taxes on corporations and adding new regulations and mandates. This will drive even more of them overseas along with the jobs.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Yes socialist want that, but Obama is no socialist.

Yes he is.

How many industries has he nationalized?

Healthcare, GM........he knows he can't go too fast. He has to do it slowly through the political process. The progressives have been at it since teddy. He being backed by known socialists is proof enough for me.

 

[Dr.Drock]

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"


I'm glad you provided this quote, shows how crazy us voters are by thinking rehashing the same status quo reps and dems over and over again, decade after decade will actually make the least bit of difference.

 

[Moonglow]

Using the logic of the OP which I can agree with to a point, the GOP must also be insane. Their solutions are also redundant failures as real life facts clearly show. All those tax cuts and bending over to businesses and yet where are the jobs?
Neither party seems to come up with solutions on their own, basically because they walk lock-step with their ideological philosophy. Neither offers any flexibility to changing times or changing problems.
This is why non-partisan compromise is certainly needed.
Our government needs to address todays issues like successful businesses address changing times in the marketplace. In order for a business to succeed, they adjust their approach. They field many ideas from many angles and come to a solution. It requires an open-mind and flexibility with the goal being success for the business. There's no room for individual gains when the success of the company is the main goal.
With our current political parties, it's all about the next election and getting the upper hand. If businesses were run like our current political structure runs our country, businesses would fail time after time.
It's time for putting party/ideology first to end. Otherwise, the US will continue it's downward spiral. The only way the US is going to reverse it's slide is through open-minded compromise, realizing past mistakes and learning from the past mistakes.

The answer sure isn't with raising taxes on corporations and adding new regulations and mandates. This will drive even more of them overseas along with the jobs.

They have and will go overseas no matter what is done, unless you want to make 50 cents and hour to please the greedy corporatists.

 

[Meister]

and the republicans have offered what to increase jobs?

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just sayin

You asked, this is from Plymco yesterday

Mitt is not in the House, cut and cap does not promote any business incentives.

Deflection. We're talking about job growth, Cut, Cap and balance will surely add jobs as it will show that there is going to be some stability with our government with spending which will help job growth. Look and think outside your box. The last I looked, Mitt is a republican. Thanks for playing.

 

[Meister]

Using the logic of the OP which I can agree with to a point, the GOP must also be insane. Their solutions are also redundant failures as real life facts clearly show. All those tax cuts and bending over to businesses and yet where are the jobs?
Neither party seems to come up with solutions on their own, basically because they walk lock-step with their ideological philosophy. Neither offers any flexibility to changing times or changing problems.
This is why non-partisan compromise is certainly needed.
Our government needs to address todays issues like successful businesses address changing times in the marketplace. In order for a business to succeed, they adjust their approach. They field many ideas from many angles and come to a solution. It requires an open-mind and flexibility with the goal being success for the business. There's no room for individual gains when the success of the company is the main goal.
With our current political parties, it's all about the next election and getting the upper hand. If businesses were run like our current political structure runs our country, businesses would fail time after time.
It's time for putting party/ideology first to end. Otherwise, the US will continue it's downward spiral. The only way the US is going to reverse it's slide is through open-minded compromise, realizing past mistakes and learning from the past mistakes.

The answer sure isn't with raising taxes on corporations and adding new regulations and mandates. This will drive even more of them overseas along with the jobs.

They have and will go overseas no matter what is done, unless you want to make 50 cents and hour to please the greedy corporatists.

Are you for real? Make this country a business friendly country and they will come back. It's not all about the wages, fool.

 

[Moonglow]

Yes he is.

How many industries has he nationalized?

Healthcare, GM........he knows he can't go too fast. He has to do it slowly through the political process. The progressives have been at it since teddy. He being backed by known socialists is proof enough for me.

the government owes no shares of stock in GM. It is a publicly held corporation, supported by private investors. All the govt. did was loan them monies and held collaterial in stock, once the loan was repaid the stocks were sold, every bank does it.
The healthcare industry mandate is run by private insurance companies and the medical services are all private, no govt. people or industries are controlled or owned by the government.
try again.
Please show me how Obama is a socialist.

socialists als donate to republicans.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

How many industries has he nationalized?

Healthcare, GM........he knows he can't go too fast. He has to do it slowly through the political process. The progressives have been at it since teddy. He being backed by known socialists is proof enough for me.

the government owes no shares of stock in GM. It is a publicly held corporation, supported by private investors. All the govt. did was loan them monies and held collaterial in stock, once the loan was repaid the stocks were sold, every bank does it.
The healthcare industry mandate is run by private insurance companies and the medical services are all private, no govt. people or industries are controlled or owned by the government.
try again.
Please show me how Obama is a socialist.

socialists als donate to republicans.

Stop using facts, it makes righties sceared

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Yes he is.

How many industries has he nationalized?

Healthcare, GM........he knows he can't go too fast. He has to do it slowly through the political process. The progressives have been at it since teddy. He being backed by known socialists is proof enough for me.

Health care hasn't been nationalized.

 

[Moonglow]

You asked, this is from Plymco yesterday

Mitt is not in the House, cut and cap does not promote any business incentives.

Deflection. We're talking about job growth, Cut, Cap and balance will surely add jobs as it will show that there is going to be some stability with our government with spending which will help job growth. Look and think outside your box. The last I looked, Mitt is a republican. Thanks for playing.

Stability and job growth occurred during Reagan and his tax increase and deficit spending and it occurred during Clinton.
try again
Romney is a neocon, he is no conservative republican or tea party member. And he has not introduced any bills to Congress.

 

[Moonglow]

Healthcare, GM........he knows he can't go too fast. He has to do it slowly through the political process. The progressives have been at it since teddy. He being backed by known socialists is proof enough for me.

the government owes no shares of stock in GM. It is a publicly held corporation, supported by private investors. All the govt. did was loan them monies and held collaterial in stock, once the loan was repaid the stocks were sold, every bank does it.
The healthcare industry mandate is run by private insurance companies and the medical services are all private, no govt. people or industries are controlled or owned by the government.
try again.
Please show me how Obama is a socialist.

socialists als donate to republicans.

Stop using facts, it makes righties sceared

Yes their hyperbole rhetoric is most disingenuous.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Name one thing that Obama and the dems have done for 3 years that has improved anything, just 1. I can't think of anything.

well I can't help it if your blind, deaf and dumb.

In other words, you can't name one thing either... way to go Bart!

 

[Rocko]

Yes he is.

How many industries has he nationalized?

Healthcare, GM........he knows he can't go too fast. He has to do it slowly through the political process. The progressives have been at it since teddy. He being backed by known socialists is proof enough for me.

don't forget the entire student loan industry, but yes democracy is a "messy process", so he can't move fast enough for libs.

 

[Meister]

Mitt is not in the House, cut and cap does not promote any business incentives.

Deflection. We're talking about job growth, Cut, Cap and balance will surely add jobs as it will show that there is going to be some stability with our government with spending which will help job growth. Look and think outside your box. The last I looked, Mitt is a republican. Thanks for playing.

Stability and job growth occurred during Reagan and his tax increase and deficit spending and it occurred during Clinton.
try again
Romney is a neocon, he is no conservative republican or tea party member. And he has not introduced any bills to Congress.

What are you talking about? Reagan lowered the corporate tax rate in 1986 to around 20%. It's now at around 40%, and other countries are much lower inticing our corporations to move over there.
Mitt, does have a plan to get the jobs , along with the other sites that plymco suggested.

 

[kiwiman127]

The answer sure isn't with raising taxes on corporations and adding new regulations and mandates. This will drive even more of them overseas along with the jobs.

They have and will go overseas no matter what is done, unless you want to make 50 cents and hour to please the greedy corporatists.

Are you for real? Make this country a business friendly country and they will come back. It's not all about the wages, fool.

Actually, wages do play into companies hiring offshore! Even with wages being flat since the 80's, companies still get cheaper labor offshore. Typically, employee wages/salaries are anywhere from 30% to upwards of 50% of the cost of running a business ****. If a business can cut it's wages by 50% and lower their overall cost of doing business by 15% to 25%,would they do it? The answer is yes. And companies are doing it! This sure helps explain why businesses are having record profits during a basically world-wide economic downturn.

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[Meister]

How many industries has he nationalized?

Healthcare, GM........he knows he can't go too fast. He has to do it slowly through the political process. The progressives have been at it since teddy. He being backed by known socialists is proof enough for me.

the government owes no shares of stock in GM. It is a publicly held corporation, supported by private investors. All the govt. did was loan them monies and held collaterial in stock, once the loan was repaid the stocks were sold, every bank does it.
The healthcare industry mandate is run by private insurance companies and the medical services are all private, no govt. people or industries are controlled or owned by the government.
try again.
Please show me how Obama is a socialist.

socialists als donate to republicans.

GM went public last year, allowing the U.S. government to nearly halve its 61-percent stake in the automaker. The government currently holds 32 percent of GM's common equity.


By the way it's different when a public company like a bank buys and sells stock. It's quite odd when the fed. government does it.....

With your healthcare drivel, it is the natural progression going from private to government the way it's set up. Even Barny Franks says so.