The Philosophy Of Lying. What The Results Are.

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    The results are that the truth becomes too horrible for most people to want to hear. And no place will allow it to be spoken. Even though the very existence of the earth demands that they be spoken. Those who don't want to hear it and those who won't allow it to be told will deserve their fate. But what about those like me who don't deserve it.
     
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    First OP (opening post) is my guess and welcome to the USMB. Sheesh, so someone lied about you already?
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    These are the end times. Those inclined to choose lies will be given over to liars. It is a perfect match.
    If you want the truth, search it out and ask why it was so hard to find. The answer you get will be a lie.

    Truth is, it is called brainwashing. It is begun in our elementary schools and it graduates from our liberal colleges.
    We have reached a stage where truth doesn't even enter the picture...
     
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    I already know the truth. Many truths in fact. Because I thought about them extensively. Though sometimes some were hard to find. (And nearly impossible at forums that don't allow the truth to be spoken) But sometimes it almost fell from the sky like rain. The answers I got in any form aren't lies. Also, for me, the truth not only enters the picture but it is the picture.
     
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    Lie to me and tell me how handsome, witty, intelligent, and rich I am.

    That's really what anyone wants. Lying is big business and if you really want to experience the truth, get one of those huge, wide-screen super-HD televisions so you can count the pimples, wrinkles, and blemishes of the beautiful starlet's face.
     
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    It is often the case that what you want isn't good for you. And giving you the lies you want will only be harmful to society in general.

    Here is another way to look at it. It comes from an Emerson, Lake and Palmer song. (Maybe they themselves got the idea from a movie called The Forbin Project) In the song, somebody apparently creates an artificial intelligence that is mentally far superior to anything humans are. It behaves in a way that the creator doesn't agree with. He says to the AI "But I gave you life!" The AI says, "What else could you do." The creator says, "To do what was right!" The AI says, "I'm perfect. Are you."
     
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    So regale me with a truth and we'll see if it stays put or, if not, why not.
     
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    Perfection, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Just because AI thinks he is perfect, does not mean he is. The creator obviously does not think so. So, which is telling the truth?
     
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    Well you count as one. Let's see how many more there will be.
     
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    What if a maggot could perceive perfection. What would perfection be to it. Also, if any AI thought it was perfect, it would be far beyond your ability to question. There is no greater truth than that.
     

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