The other green house gases

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    n2o is also a very important green house gas...Here is the map of its rise...It hit 224 ppt

    Here is a page of all the goodies for us green house gas trackers!!! Forcing charts too! YAY!!!:eusa_angel:
    NOAA/ESRL Global Monitoring Division - THE NOAA ANNUAL GREENHOUSE GAS INDEX (AGGI)

    n2o has .173 of the 2.770 watts/meter^2 as of 2009, while co2 has 1.760 watts/meter^2 as of 2009...I'm sure it is at least 1.79 for 2010 when it is updated or maybe 1.80!:lol::lol::lol:

    DAMN I WISH THEY HAD SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR METHANE! That is what is important right now.
     
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    The new report doesn't just address the issue of carbon dioxide but also nitrous oxide, methane, and all other greenhouse gases present in the atmosphere as well. Climate researchers calculate their warming effects in "CO2 equivalents" so that they are able to operate with a standardized unit. The amount of greenhouse gases are measured in ppm or "parts per million." The concentration of such gases in the atmosphere was over 460 ppm CO2 equivalents in 2007. At 450 ppm, there is only a 50 percent chance that the temperature increase would stay under 2 degrees Celsius, according to the Copenhagen report, citing a recent study.

    When you consider the whole number of green house gases!!!
     
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    Yep. And rapidly rising. The 15 minor gases are an important factor, also. Note they have risen by a factor of 3 since 1979.

    As we observe the warming of the Arctic Ocean, our rapidly increasing additions to the GHGs in the atmosphere, we cannot help but wonder at what point the shallow clathrates in the Arctic are going to show us how to really ramp up the figures. Yet this is supposed to be a political issue. Kind of like politisizing an oncoming freight train.
     
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    Nitrogen trifluoride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    NF3 is a product of solar panel production. Unintended consequences rear it's ugly head.
     
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    That is correct. However, anyone just letting NF3 escape their manufacturing processes is throwing money out the window. And there are many other manufacturing processes that involve the fifteen minor gases that have nothing to do with alternative energy.

    People, once again we see an attempt to politisize an issue that is simply one of science. We need to prevent manmade GHGs from getting into the atmosphere, period. Whether they be from the burning of fossil fuels, or from manufacturing processes.
     
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    Has it ever ponder upon you the earth has it's own self correcting feedback mechanism and no matter what we throw at it, it will determine the outcome. It's pretty arrogant to assume humans can over come mother nature; can't stop a tornado, can't stop a hurricane, and can't stop an earthquake.

    There's a big yellow thing in the sky from dusk to dawn that has more of an effect on our climate than your self induce paranoia. Peer review after peer review can't quit get those climate models correct, FACT. If they do, it's only for a short while before mother nature throws another monkey wrench into the works and the peer review experts are perplexed as to why...ah what happened?
     
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    OK, so you prefer to be ignorant. You do realize that something as small as bluegreen algea totally changed our atmosphere and ocean, don't you?

    We have already increased the CO2 in the atmosphere by 40%. That is no small feat. We are changing the Ph level of the very ocean, and you come on and state that we cannot effect the earth? What a dumb ass.
     
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    Demonstration of pure ignorance. You might just check out what happened during the P-T extinction.
     
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    The only true determining factor for a gas's greenhouse effect is:

    Can Al Gore make money off it?
     
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    Was that the standard 20 years ago, when I was in grade school and Al Gore was a Representative from Tennessee that nobody had heard of?
     

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