bripat9643
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ROFL! How could Trump possibly be worse than Harry Reid, one of the biggest douche bags ever to get elected to the Senate?I never liked Reid and agree that those types of comments and actions should not be accepted from our leadership. Im glad he is out. Now we have somebody that is even worse than Reid running our country. I don't see any way for this situation to get better. Trump is dumping gasoline all over it and the Dems/MSM are fanning the flames.I know i've been arguing most points with OKTexas on this thread but he does make an interesting point. There is a tremendous amount of outrage about Russia interfering with the election. The hacking is obviously a crime, but the other stuff they are accused of... Trolling and releasing fake news etc. That is all stuff that our media outlets do as well. Look at the Breitbarts/Infowars and and the Slates/Guardians etc.Here again is the Statute for easy reference;18 U.S. Code § 953
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
Ok Einstein, explain to the class what disputes or controversies with the US or measures of the US were they trying to defeat. You do know the bitch and the DNC are private entities and not the US, right?
Here is your hypothetical too;Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This was gone over several times before and you rejected it because it ruined your boast! Of course one is a political party not associated with the US, which is a moot point because the DNC was not part of your hypothetical, fool! Clinton is a private US citizen. BUT, neither are a party to the collusion between the Trump Associate, the US person of interest, and the Russian representative, the foreign representative of interest. You don't seem cognizant of your own bloody hypothetical event.Let's say a Trump associate spoke to a Russian representative. The Russian told him we have some really bad shit on the hildabitch and the representative said wow, it would sure help us if you released it on Tuesday and they did exactly that.
The unlawful action under 18 U.S. Code § 953 took place between the Trump rep and the Russian rep! The offer by the Russian and the acceptance of that offer by the Trump rep was the ACTION TAKEN against US interests in a free and fair election for the purpose of destabilizing that election, that MEASURE in question, would have been violative of the statute you claim doesn't apply! Waltzing around that with all your quibbling will NOT CHANGE THE FACTS, TEX!
The two ACTING PARTIES of your hypothetical would, indeed, be colluding to hinder an important government process and that cooperation with the foreign entity by the Trump rep would violate the statute. Q.E.D. Now will you man up, or will your stupid pride keep you from admitting error?
So in your opinion, it's ok for officials of the US federal government and US media to put their thumbs on the scales of free and fair elections in the US, and no one else. Remember the talking head on CNN, we've helped the bitch all we can? The US government is made up of politicians and not one of them are interested in free and fair elections, most of them have no problem lying, cheating or stealing to gain an advantage. They just want you to think they want things fair. If there were damaging RNC emails being released you would have been right in there pushing the crap out of them.
But since the US government doesn't conduct elections, your example won't fly legally. Guess what, some of the brightest democrat legal minds agree with my assessment.
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It seems that if releasing fake information and trolling to favor a political candidate is a crime then many in our media is guilty. Maybe opening up a can for a new discussion about how to deal with this problem, if it is deemed a crime
But it also includes politicians, political packs and others spreading half truths and outright lies. Harry Reid is a prime example, his lie about Romney's taxes was something he bragged about. Didn't see anyone calling him a traitor for trying to improperly influence the election. Commiecrats don't mind politics being a contact sport till they lose.
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