The Myth of Green Energy Security!!!!

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    Ooooooooooooooooooops!!!!

    The Myth of Green Energy Security
    Bjørn Lomborg, May 12, 2011

    COPENHAGEN – Turmoil across the Middle East and Northern Africa has refocused attention on the impact that political tensions or interference can have on the price and availability of energy imports. Against consumer fears of gas-price hikes, energy security ranks high on many Western governments’ policy agendas.

    Of course, this is hardly a new phenomenon: Europe started trying to build up its energy reserves back in the 1960’s. Likewise, every American president since Richard Nixon in the early 1970’s has tried, and failed, to reduce dependence on foreign oil.

    A new trend, though, is that policies that just a few years ago were being touted to fight climate change are being presented as a necessary way to increase energy security. Against the backdrop of the financial crisis, and as public support for climate-change policies scrapes new lows in many developed countries, we hear less from leaders about the threat of global warming, and more about the supposed economic benefits of climate policies.

    This shift is hardly surprising, given the increasing number of analyses that demonstrate that current – unilateral – climate policies will have virtually no impact on the rise in global temperature.

    The Myth of Green Energy Security by Bjørn Lomborg - Project Syndicate






    More lose for the k00ks...................




    But wait...............I thought the science was settled!!!!???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D:up::fu:
     
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    In other words.................exactly what Ive been saying in here for months and months. Public support for climate change policies is virtually DEAD!!!!!


    But go right ahead and knock youself out posting up numbers by the REAL SCIENTISTS!!!
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    Consider Europe's options for becoming energy independent, it seems logical they would embrace a green energy policy.
     
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    HOLY MOTHER OF GOD

    Thats ALL theyve done for 20 years and its been NOTHING but an abyssmal failure!!!! In every EU country, they've lost 2 jobs for every green job gained. ANd they have no more money for any of this Disneyland shit anymore..........the public has spoken.
     
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    kinda figured the k00ks would avoid this thread. Anything real and measurable causes a far lefty to shit his shorts.
     
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    Bjørn to be wild...
     
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    And.... even worse.... it's a very legitimate, non partisan source.

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    Mr. Obama's green jobs program turns this on its head, favoring technologies that employ large numbers of people over technologies that use labor efficiently. For example, according to the United Nations Environment Program, solar energy requires 9 times as much labor per megawatt of energy generated as natural gas, and 9 times as many workers per megawatt of energy as coal. No wonder, solar energy costs 3 to 5 times as much per megawatt as electricity from natural gas or coal.

    Experience in Europe, which has taken the lead in green job creation, confirms that this is an economic shell game. For example, according to a study of Spain's renewable energy initiatives, the Spanish government created about 50,000 green jobs, but as a result about 110,000 other jobs were lost.

    Worse, only 1 in 10 new jobs were permanent, and the average green job created since added $774,000 in costs to consumers' bills. The high cost of green energy has driven energy-intensive Spanish industries to countries with lower energy costs.

    The report concluded, "These costs do not appear to be unique to Spain's approach but instead are largely inherent in schemes to promote renewable energy sources." That means that even if Mr. Obama's initiatives manage to produce 5 million green jobs, about 11 million jobs could be lost in other sectors.
    GEDDES AND BURNETT: Eco at the end of recession? - Washington Times
     
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    And whats funny as hell is that the k00ks dont bat an eyelash about this..........as long as big oil is fcukked. Stupid dumbasses.........green technology industry bigs are getting their pockets lined JUST LIKE big oil bigs......and its all tied to a mega-scam that sticks a dick in the ass of the common man........using 20th century mindless technology that is laughable.
     
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    The energy goal in Europe over the last 20 years has not been job creation but rather energy independence through alternative energy wherever possible. Spain is now producing 25% of their electricity from wind and solar in spite of their financial problems. Germany has increased their energy independent, mostly from alternative sources from 10% to 20% and expects to be producing over 50% of their energy from alternative sources by 2050. Almost every country in Europe has made some progress toward energy independent through alternative energy over the last 20 years. The US today is much more dependent on foreign energy sources and we haven't the scratched the surface at using alternative energy.

    I think Europe will make tremendous gains in energy independence through alternative energy over the next 50 years because they have no other option.
     

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