The Koran Does preach death and violence...yikes

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    Yikes.....
     
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    Pretty lame, dude. And it's obvious that you wanted Christians to chime in and support your condemnation of the Koran so that you'd be able to say "gotcha!" and prance around giggling about the quotes really being biblical. We're diametric opposites, but I'll give you props - you're an intelligent guy. And you're above this.

    By the way, you could have given Daily Kos user Devilstower credit:

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/23/154212/19/550/425575
     
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    W-A-Y busted.:lol:
     
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    it's still a pretty valid point to be made though, yes?
     
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    Yes and no! As a religion the Christian faith has moved beyond these teachings, you know the birth of Christ and all that. Where as the Moslem faith still preaches these types of tenets.

    No the vast majority of them (moslems) dont but the ones that do deffinitely have a captive audience dont they... If not we wouldnt have the number of individuals willing to martyr themselves would we??

    So I have to say it really isn't a "valid" point, but a vield attempt to justify the Moslems extremism and thats all.....
     
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    There are several contradictory lines in the Quran just as there are in the Bible.
     
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    Those are Old Testament laws, not Christian ones. The only one IMO that Christ would have supported was the last as in "thou shalt have no other Gods before me." I don't recall seeing where he approved of slavery and murder.
     
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    As nukeman points out ... Christianity has evolved. Those laws/rules aren't even Christian, they're Mosaic.

    Islam still teaches the same thing it did when Muhammed was alive, and the fundamentalists strive to keep their people and cultures stuck in that same place, and is based on religious intolernace.
     
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    The three primary religions are related, so criticizing one is really criticizing them all regardless of any progress made in any society.
     
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    yea,.. I'll remember that the next time the eric rudolph of the day creeps into our culture. I guess I could point out the warmonging nature of fair weather christians whose concern for humanity doesn't reach into muslims nations feeling the conflict du jour but why try to point out that death by suicide bomber and death by rationalized collateral damage results in the same death?

    and, i'll remind you that it's STILL in the christian bible. You know, the whole alpha and omega bit? No path to heaven but through the bible and the observation of the OT as well as the NT? Just because the NT is supposed to be gods Covenant with the gentiles rather than the OT covenant with the jews doesn't mean that the OT is in any way ignored or not used to rationalize christian behaviour.


    Remember the thread about if jebus REALLY meant to turn the other cheak? Review that one and get back to me about the capacity of christians to move beyond rationalizing violence.
     

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