The Iraq war is over

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    We are no longer involved in a war.

    It is an occupation.

    How do you "win" and occupation?

    You leave.
     
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    It was never a war. There is no end goal in sight because, as you stated so eloquently...we are occupying not waging war.
     
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    The American people need to ask why we are occupying another country.

    Why are we spilling our blood to occupy someone elses country?

    If it is to keep it from having terrorists then why did we go after a country which was no threat to us and turn it into a place the terrorists could take advantage of?
     
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    That is the question whose answer they will kill to protect.
     
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    I wonder how much more for gas the American people would pay to have our country out of this war?

    The really sad thing is we are paying like twice what we were paying before we entered Iraq already.

    We have been taken for a huge ride by the oil industires in the world via the Bush admin.

    Its time to end this occupation and to quit paying for this gas with the lives of our brave young soldiers.

    Ill pay another dollar a gallon to stop the bleeding of our troops and the treasury of our country.

    Its costing us trillions already.
     
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    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/08/iraq/main2451828.shtml

    heres a little information no one seems to pay any attention to.

    The meters on the oil pumps have been broken for years and no one replaces them. This makes it possible to steal oil and sell it on the world black market vertually cost free.

    Who is it that is profiting from this free oil?

    They dont have to pay Iraq for it because it is uncounted.

    Just transport it and sell it on the black market.

    No wonder Bush refuses to leave this cash cow until the bitter end.
     
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    You cant handle the truth.
     
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    I hear you and know what you mean. Read the following relevant flip-flop. These are things that Bush said in a 2000 year debate.

    http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2000a.html

    I don't think we can be all things to all people in the world. I think we've got to be very careful when we commit our troops. The vice president and I have a disagreement about the use of troops. He believes in nation building. I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders. I believe the role of the military is to fight and win war and therefore prevent war from happening in the first place. So I would take my responsibility seriously. And it starts with making sure we rebuild our military power...

    If we don't have a clear vision of the military, if we don't stop extending our troops all around the world and nation building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road, and I'm going to prevent that.


    How does he do this – by having our military go into Iraq very soon after going into Afghanistan and, after toppling Saddam, work on practically creating a new nation in Iraq based on democracy.
     
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    Gee TM how is that you can make a coherent sentence on this sight but not on others??? I see you still put forth you usual drivel.....

    A question for you would be "what do you propose we do"? You complain a lot but you NEVER have an answer to ANY problem! Why is that???
     
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    And what was the time after VE Day? How about the time after VJ Day?

    How long after Germany fell did it take for them to take over their own country again? Did we stick around due to threat of their neighbors?

    Do we do to Iraq what we did to Germany after WW1? Stick them with the bill? Or do we help them rebuild like we did after WW2?
     

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