The Invasion of Iraq

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    Why did the United States invade Iraq?

    So many liberals claim that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Saddam ran a "secular" country. He had no connection to al-Qaeda. So why did the United States invade Iraq?

    Here's my opinion:

    First of all, there is a connection between Iraq and 9/11. Bin Laden is on record as saying that the presense of American troops on Holy Muslim soil was a major reason why 9/11 was planned and carried out. Our soldiers were in Saudi Arabia at the direct invitation of the Saudi Arabian government in response to the invasion of Kuwait. The invasion of Kuwait was done by none other than Saddam Hussein. To say that there is no connection between Iraq and 9/11 is ludicrious on it's face.

    However, I believe that George W. Bush was hell bent on invading Iraq to show up his father. Not defend his father, or avenge his father for any perceived plots against him. But to show the world that he was a better man, a better leader, and a better president.

    Anyone who can read, and who followed the build up to the invasion in 2003, had to know that the Bush administration was going to invade Iraq no matter what Saddam did. It was obvious. That last ultimatum Saddam was given, that he leave his own country? I mean, come on. Any moron should have seen that the Bush administration was hell bent on invading.

    Yet today those members of Congress who voted to give Bush the authority to invade claim that Bush lied. WMD? What a crock of shit. Who cares that WMD weren't found. So what. It was never about that because it was obvious that Bush would have invaded Iraq anyway. And Congress gave him the permission to do so.

    The next constitutional amendment approved in this country should be one that prevents a son from being president in his fathers lifetime. No man should be allowed to wage a war, and invade a sovereign nation, to show the world he's a better man than his father. That's the only reason George W, Bush invaded Iraq. Not oil. Not money. But to show up his old man.

    He should have just whipped out a ruler and compared dicks.
     
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    Pretty deep, Dr. Freud !
     
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    Got a better explanation?

    What kills me is the outrageousness of the Dems who now claimed that they were lied to.

    Huh?

    Whenever I read that crap I always think of the scene in Casablanca when Louie says "I'm shocked, SHOCKED, to discover gambling going on!"
     
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    Whats your point? We helped ensure that Saddam stayed in power in the 80s. ZOMG ZOMG, while we're drawing pointless conclusions, one could then argue that the whole thing gets tracked all the way back to Reagan. ZOMG 9/11 was Reagan's fault!!!!!!!!!!! (END HEAVY SARCASM)


    What a reason to send thousands of peoples to their deaths...

    Well that much was obvious.

    I seem to remember at least two or three speeches in which Bush and Blair claimed that the sole reason for going to war in Iraq was to disarm a rogue nation. Whether the WMD truly existed is still up to debate, but the official public reason as to why we were going to war was, and still is WMD.

    Families should not be allowed to run consistently.

    My theory on why we invaded Iraq:

    Oil. No doubt about it. Iraq sits on the second largest proven reserves in the world. With Saddam in the house, we cannot make legitimate deals to get to that oil, so he has to go. Instability now... But in the long run (provided Iraq doesnt devolve into Civil War) this move will provide long term security in the energy markets. Same with Iran... We will probably wind up there next.

    Wars are most often fought over economic reasons.
     
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    Nice analogy.:)
     
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    I expect politicians to be politicians... what bothers me is the amount of Americans who bought the whole WMD line of crap.
     
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    Stretching it there chief. bin Forgotten hated Saddam's guts because he was nominally a Sunni but really ran a secular government. Remember one of his senior ministers was a Chaldean Christian. The reason bin Forgotten committed his atrocities was because, as a religious nutter, he wanted America out of Saudi Arabia so he attacked symbolicallly and tragically. Nothing to do with Iraq. bin Forgotten wants all non-Muslims out of Arabia, he wants the Saudis out as well, he wants it returned to its old Muslim purity.

    As for Bush's Oedipal issues, I think you're on a winner :teeth:
     
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    Sometimes these things just happen (1):

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,199052,00.html

     
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    Interesting post nt.

    I am not so sure about this paragraph though. While you prove a relationship between 9/11 and Iraq, it is not proper justification for an invasion. Osama attacks because we had troops to keep an eye on Iraq. So as a result, we attack Iraq again? Why not keep the guns aimed at the actual assailant? If that is the only relationship, then we definately should have never invaded the country. It would be like invading France after WWII because their post-WWI actions against Germany helped give rise to Hitler.

    If it were true that Hussein directly supported terror or 9/11 or WMD's...perhaps then there may be some grounds for an invasion. It just does not look like any of those are true.
     

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