The Ignorant Shouldnt Vote

Its because the truth hurts, as opposed to the current Democratic method of governance, which is promise the moon, tax "other people" to pay for it, and hope you are retired somewhere else or dead when the bills come in.

So because you believe your own lies, voters should be disenfranchised as a result?

No, I answered the question of why I dont think the conservative message resonates, not about voting rights. I am currently fine with the current qualifications for voting.

What I meant is that fiscal conservatives are the "adults" of the conversation, telling people that the current state of "half keysian" spending cannot be sustained.

Democrats on the other hand basically just want to keep spending, and hope it all works out in the end. Currently ingorance is more palatable than asking the hard questions, and thus the fiscal conservative message does not resonate, because most people tend to ignore unpleseant realities.

What fiscal conservatives? Every time a Republican is in office, our debt explodes. You claim the Democrats tax and spend and maybe they do, but all I've seen from the GOP since Reagan is borrow and spend. Puhleese.
 
And how many people are in the top bracket at any given time? You guys keep leaving that information out....

and considering your usual posting, some lime juice in your rectum might improve your intellect.


Bullshit and horse kock!! There was enough to pay for the wars.

Bush cut taxes twice, started two wars, began to borrow from Chinese banks for the first time in our history and doubled the national debt. What a bunch of naive losers.

Thump them bibles and starve the poor.

and Obama promised to fix all this, in addition to healing the planet and lowering the waters. Didnt happen.

Still havent answered my question regarding how many people were in those top brackets. Nut up or shut up you worthless partisan hack.

So how did the lime juice in the rectum thing go? A bit of puckering?

The goddam mess the Republicans left in 1930-32 took Roosevelt eight years and a world war to straighten out. Obama assumed a Bush mess. The president will be reelected and we will see how long it takes him to straighten it out.
 
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So because you believe your own lies, voters should be disenfranchised as a result?

No, I answered the question of why I dont think the conservative message resonates, not about voting rights. I am currently fine with the current qualifications for voting.

What I meant is that fiscal conservatives are the "adults" of the conversation, telling people that the current state of "half keysian" spending cannot be sustained.

Democrats on the other hand basically just want to keep spending, and hope it all works out in the end. Currently ingorance is more palatable than asking the hard questions, and thus the fiscal conservative message does not resonate, because most people tend to ignore unpleseant realities.

What fiscal conservatives? Every time a Republican is in office, our debt explodes. You claim the Democrats tax and spend and maybe they do, but all I've seen from the GOP since Reagan is borrow and spend. Puhleese.

At least with Republicans we have a CHANCE of going to a truly fiscally conservative pathway. With democrats it isnt going to happen, at least at the national level.

At the state level you have some democrats with a modicum of spending restraint, my own governor, Andrew Cuomo, is a good example. He just have to deal with a large portion of his own party that never met a tax increase they didnt like.
 
Bullshit and horse kock!! There was enough to pay for the wars.

Bush cut taxes twice, started two wars, began to borrow from Chinese banks for the first time in our history and doubled the national debt. What a bunch of naive losers.

Thump them bibles and starve the poor.

and Obama promised to fix all this, in addition to healing the planet and lowering the waters. Didnt happen.

Still havent answered my question regarding how many people were in those top brackets. Nut up or shut up you worthless partisan hack.

So how did the lime juice in the rectum thing go? A bit of puckering?

The goddam mess the Republicans left in 1930-32 took Roosevelt eight years and a world war to straighten out. Obama assumed a Bush mess. The president will be reelected and we will see how long it takes him to straighten it out.

You know that the depression was a worldwide phenomenon, related more to the after effects of WWI and the explosion of credit that outpaced societies ablity to comprehend the new economic models brought on by technology increases, right?

Of course you dont, your too busy injecting lime juice into your rectum.
 
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No, I answered the question of why I dont think the conservative message resonates, not about voting rights. I am currently fine with the current qualifications for voting.

What I meant is that fiscal conservatives are the "adults" of the conversation, telling people that the current state of "half keysian" spending cannot be sustained.

Democrats on the other hand basically just want to keep spending, and hope it all works out in the end. Currently ingorance is more palatable than asking the hard questions, and thus the fiscal conservative message does not resonate, because most people tend to ignore unpleseant realities.

What fiscal conservatives? Every time a Republican is in office, our debt explodes. You claim the Democrats tax and spend and maybe they do, but all I've seen from the GOP since Reagan is borrow and spend. Puhleese.

At least with Republicans we have a CHANCE of going to a truly fiscally conservative pathway. With democrats it isnt going to happen, at least at the national level.

At the state level you have some democrats with a modicum of spending restraint, my own governor, Andrew Cuomo, is a good example. He just have to deal with a large portion of his own party that never met a tax increase they didnt like.
What Republican has ever put us on a truly fiscally conservative pathway? Certainly none in my lifetime.
 
What fiscal conservatives? Every time a Republican is in office, our debt explodes. You claim the Democrats tax and spend and maybe they do, but all I've seen from the GOP since Reagan is borrow and spend. Puhleese.

At least with Republicans we have a CHANCE of going to a truly fiscally conservative pathway. With democrats it isnt going to happen, at least at the national level.

At the state level you have some democrats with a modicum of spending restraint, my own governor, Andrew Cuomo, is a good example. He just have to deal with a large portion of his own party that never met a tax increase they didnt like.
What Republican has ever put us on a truly fiscally conservative pathway? Certainly none in my lifetime.

One would hope Romney and Ryan would be able to be the ones. Still a better chance with them than Obama.

Sooner or later fiscal responsibility will be forced on us, like it or not.
 
At least with Republicans we have a CHANCE of going to a truly fiscally conservative pathway. With democrats it isnt going to happen, at least at the national level.

At the state level you have some democrats with a modicum of spending restraint, my own governor, Andrew Cuomo, is a good example. He just have to deal with a large portion of his own party that never met a tax increase they didnt like.
What Republican has ever put us on a truly fiscally conservative pathway? Certainly none in my lifetime.

One would hope Romney and Ryan would be able to be the ones. Still a better chance with them than Obama.

Sooner or later fiscal responsibility will be forced on us, like it or not.
:lol: That is always the Republican claim.

Romney's track record leans elsewhere.
 
What Republican has ever put us on a truly fiscally conservative pathway? Certainly none in my lifetime.

One would hope Romney and Ryan would be able to be the ones. Still a better chance with them than Obama.

Sooner or later fiscal responsibility will be forced on us, like it or not.
:lol: That is always the Republican claim.

Romney's track record leans elsewhere.

Yeah...they always claim cutting tax rates for the wealthy creates jobs. LMAO!!!!
 
No, I answered the question of why I dont think the conservative message resonates, not about voting rights. I am currently fine with the current qualifications for voting.

What I meant is that fiscal conservatives are the "adults" of the conversation, telling people that the current state of "half keysian" spending cannot be sustained.

Democrats on the other hand basically just want to keep spending, and hope it all works out in the end. Currently ingorance is more palatable than asking the hard questions, and thus the fiscal conservative message does not resonate, because most people tend to ignore unpleseant realities.

What fiscal conservatives? Every time a Republican is in office, our debt explodes. You claim the Democrats tax and spend and maybe they do, but all I've seen from the GOP since Reagan is borrow and spend. Puhleese.

At least with Republicans we have a CHANCE of going to a truly fiscally conservative pathway. With democrats it isnt going to happen, at least at the national level.

At the state level you have some democrats with a modicum of spending restraint, my own governor, Andrew Cuomo, is a good example. He just have to deal with a large portion of his own party that never met a tax increase they didnt like.

Are you stupid or is it that you just appear to be:

uneven-distribution-of-income-growth.jpg
 
The goddam mess the Republicans left in 1930-32 took Roosevelt eight years and a world war to straighten out. Obama assumed a Bush mess. The president will be reelected and we will see how long it takes him to straighten it out.
"...the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so." Reagan
 
The goddam mess the Republicans left in 1930-32 took Roosevelt eight years and a world war to straighten out. Obama assumed a Bush mess. The president will be reelected and we will see how long it takes him to straighten it out.
"...the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so." Reagan
Good quote. Too bad he was very bad at being fiscally conservative.
 
The goddam mess the Republicans left in 1930-32 took Roosevelt eight years and a world war to straighten out. Obama assumed a Bush mess. The president will be reelected and we will see how long it takes him to straighten it out.
"...the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so." Reagan
Good quote. Too bad he was very bad at being fiscally conservative.
Well, he did say it long before taking office.
 
The goddam mess the Republicans left in 1930-32 took Roosevelt eight years and a world war to straighten out. Obama assumed a Bush mess. The president will be reelected and we will see how long it takes him to straighten it out.
"...the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so." Reagan

Reagan was a Democrat and the president of a union for many years before he turned Republican. If his grade B movies hadn't begun to make some serious bucks and he hadn't become obsessed with the tax rates he would have died a Democrat. His son Ron is a staunch Democrat.
 
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What fiscal conservatives? Every time a Republican is in office, our debt explodes. You claim the Democrats tax and spend and maybe they do, but all I've seen from the GOP since Reagan is borrow and spend. Puhleese.

At least with Republicans we have a CHANCE of going to a truly fiscally conservative pathway. With democrats it isnt going to happen, at least at the national level.

At the state level you have some democrats with a modicum of spending restraint, my own governor, Andrew Cuomo, is a good example. He just have to deal with a large portion of his own party that never met a tax increase they didnt like.

Are you stupid or is it that you just appear to be:

uneven-distribution-of-income-growth.jpg

And our government is charged to provide equalized outcome in our free society WHERE?? You have the freedom to fail that goes hand in hand with the freedom to succeed... What we should strive for is equality in treatment... not pandering and favoring based on what you want as an outcome
 
At least with Republicans we have a CHANCE of going to a truly fiscally conservative pathway. With democrats it isnt going to happen, at least at the national level.

At the state level you have some democrats with a modicum of spending restraint, my own governor, Andrew Cuomo, is a good example. He just have to deal with a large portion of his own party that never met a tax increase they didnt like.

Are you stupid or is it that you just appear to be:

uneven-distribution-of-income-growth.jpg

And our government is charged to provide equalized outcome in our free society WHERE?? You have the freedom to fail that goes hand in hand with the freedom to succeed... What we should strive for is equality in treatment... not pandering and favoring based on what you want as an outcome

I was in the military for six years. At the time I was discharged I was sergeant E-6...tank commander on an M-48 medium patton tank. I suppose you did your part in the Peace Corps. LMAO!! Phuck all the leeches who take America for granted and think they owe nothing.
 
Are you stupid or is it that you just appear to be:

uneven-distribution-of-income-growth.jpg

And our government is charged to provide equalized outcome in our free society WHERE?? You have the freedom to fail that goes hand in hand with the freedom to succeed... What we should strive for is equality in treatment... not pandering and favoring based on what you want as an outcome

I was in the military for six years. At the time I was discharged I was sergeant E-6...tank commander on an M-48 medium patton tank. I suppose you did your part in the Peace Corps. LMAO!! Phuck all the leeches who take America for granted and think they owe nothing.

Distraction attempt failed... because you have nothing... fuck off, troll
 
You should vote for whoever your local community organization tells you to vote for, and the one that offers the most govt welfare....................

Rock the Vote !!! Lol

Whether you blame the "idiots" who vote out of ignorance, or those who exploit voters out of "ignorance"
both groups should be required to take social, legal and financial responsibility for their own votes and policies
and not make other people pay for the consequences. People who do not consent to such "taxation without representation" should not be punished by those who do, but rewarded and encouraged for taking responsibility and investing resources in BETTER ideas for reforms -- that are more cost-effective, sustainable, and consistent with the Constitution and Govt ethics -- rather than "ignorant" policies that otherwise force taxpayers to pay for govt waste and abuse!

I believe this could be organized by Party, where members of each respective Party accept responsibility for the cost and grievances associated with any policies passed by that Party where demanded by dissenting citizens or whole groups/parties in opposition. In turn, these opposing citizens/groups accept responsibility for the alternative options they propose in place of policies they reject.
 
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A classic argument for why democracies need widespread public education is that education makes people better voters,” Mankiw writes. “If this is true, then the less educated should show up at the polls less often. They are rationally delegating the decision to their better educated neighbors.”

Encouraging more ignorant people to vote is not just pointless, argues Jason Brennan; it’s morally wrong. There is no duty to vote, but many people may have a duty not to vote. Boosting turnout among citizens who are young, uneducated, or otherwise less likely to be engaged—the primary targets of get-out-the-vote campaigns—is likely to have the unintended consequence of encouraging people to fail in that duty.

To explain why we might worry about casting an uninformed vote even when no particular vote is likely to be decisive, Brennan conjures this terrifying thought experiment: Imagine you come across a firing squad about to kill an innocent child. Assume all the bullets will strike at the same time and that there’s nothing you can do to stop them. You are invited to be the 101st member of the squad. What do you say? Brennan posits a framework to deal with this kind of hypothetical, the “clean hands principle,” which states that “one should not participate in collectively harmful activities when the cost of refraining from such activities is low.”

None of this is to suggest that the government should test voters or use some other legal means to limit voting. Instead, this is a private moral concern for each voter. If you believe your vote is likely to be ill-informed or that a particular race is likely to yield an unfair, unjust, or otherwise bad outcome, you should refrain from participating in a collectively harmful activity, thus keeping your hands clean. Get-out-the-vote campaigns promote precisely the kind of morally condemnable ignorant voting we should be discouraging....

Your Vote Doesn't Count - Reason.com

Not to worry. The racist state governments, in many of the states require a photo ID in order to cast a ballot. Tennessee has solved the problem....one's carry permit has a photo ID and since all the rednecks go armed it's a no brainer. Since we know what the intelligence level of a redneck is both problems are resolved.

"Thump Them Bibles And Shoot Any Atheist Who Refuses To Thump One"

I'm pretty sure that the required photo ID is not limited exclusively to carry permits.
 

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