The End of America

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    Best-selling author Naomi Wolf (The Beauty Myth) makes a chilling case that American democracy is under threat
    In a stunning indictment of sweeping policy changes during the Bush years, best-selling author Naomi Wolf (The Beauty Myth) makes a chilling case that American democracy is under threat. Investigating parallels between our current situation and the rise of dictators and fascism in once-free societies, Wolf uncovers a number of deeply unsettling similarities-from the use of paramilitary groups and secret prisons to the targeted suspension of the rule of law. With this galvanizing call to arms based on her recent book, she urges regular citizens to take back our legacy of freedom and justice.



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    I think this describes her work pretty well..

    In the mainstream press, The New York Times published a harshly critical assessment of Wolf's work: Caryn James lambasted the book as a "sloppily researched polemic as dismissible as a hackneyed adventure film...Even by the standards of pop-cultural feminist studies, "The Beauty Myth" is a mess." After rejecting her thesis, the review leveled even harsher appraisal of her methodology and statistics, writing, "Ms. Wolf doesn't begin to prove her claims because her logic is so lame, her evidence so easily knocked down...Her statistics are shamefully secondhand and outdated."[19] In a comparatively positive review, The Washington Post called the book "persuasive" and praised its "accumulated evidence."[20]

    This sounds very Obama-esk...

    The End of America: A Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot, Wolf takes a historical look at the rise of Fascism, outlining the 10 steps necessary for a Fascistic group (or government) to destroy the democratic character of a nation-state and subvert the social/political liberty previously exercised by its citizens:

    1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy.
    2. Create secret prisons where torture takes place.
    3. Develop a thug caste or paramilitary force not answerable to citizens.
    4. Set up an internal surveillance system.
    5. Harass citizens' groups.
    6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release.
    7. Target key individuals.
    8. Control the press.
    9. Treat all political dissidents as traitors.
    10. Suspend the rule of law.[27]
    Naomi Wolf - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    Such a review would be expected from a New Yorker.
     
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    While she makes lots of good insightful points, Bush is gone but it is the entrenched interests that created the possibility of Bush/Cheney: right wing media, think tanks, and spokepeople are still strong and have lots of support even on this site.

    The greatest fear a nation has is economic collapse and the rise of a leader who is either incompetent or evil. Bush was incompetent, Obama is not, but the forces against him lost power, and they want it back at any cost.

    The End of America - 10 steps that close an open society Compare these and below 'Hallmarks' with the last administration.


    Norris: How to Tell a Nation Is at Risk - DealBook Blog - NYTimes.com

    'Hallmarks of Fascism' How many of these fit America today?

    anti-intellectualism
    repudiation of rationalism and reason, emotion over reason
    leader discovers and represents the will of the people
    the state over the individual
    nation supremacy, nationalism, national greatness
    social Darwinism and constant struggle
    action for actions sake, violence to strengthen nation
    corporation-state unity
    faith in the nation and the leader
    hero worship
    police state, crushing of opposition
    National Socialism - add racism to fascism

    The Philosophic Roots of Modern Ideology Liberalism, Communism, Fascism



    Limbaugh spells it out perfectly. Rush, Newspeak and Fascism: An exegesis

    Fourteen points of fascism and the last administration. http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm



    "The Corporation is established to develop the wealth, political power and welfare of the Italian people. Corporatism means a disciplined, and therefore a controlled, economy, since there can be no discipline which is not controlled. Corporatism overcomes Socialism as well as it does Liberalism: it creates a new synthesis." Mussolini
     
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    Obama is an extension of Bush. When it comes to foreign policy, civil liberties etc. they're the same. The only real difference is that Obama doesn't have the war hawk Dick Cheney trying to run the show. Unending wars. Nothing changes.
     
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    I will agree that Bush was not competent in keeping the interest of the country secure in economic and security terms. This by his own pre-election rhetoric which promised a humble presidency with plenty of bi-partisan cooperation.

    As a reality check, though, the Big 0 is the worst President I've ever seen in those categories which he, too, alluded to often. Even the most ardent lover of the Big 0 has to be impressed with the way he has gotten every thing he has asked for to accomplish his plan and has failed to produce economic growth and national security.

    He is selectively enforcing the laws he likes and ignoring the ones he does not and is actively working to advance his party over any national goal while undermining our national respect abroad.

    He obviously does not understand how to make the economy start to improve and has accepted that the 10% unemployment is the new normal and the duty of the 90% who work is to support the 10% who don't.

    That is one possibility.

    Another possibility is that he does understand how the economy works, is actively blocking progress to create and maintain a permanent needy class and is brilliantly and diabolically shaping a future of wealth redistribution as a standard method of life.

    Judging only by the results, he's either an incompetent boob or a brilliant swindler.

    Which one do you judge him to be?
     
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    Depending on the administration, there's always a book (books) written describing the fall of America....I wish I could recall the title of one of these more interesting fictions that came out during the Bush Administration predicting the secession of Montana and Wyoming to form the country of Jefferson after disgruntled right wingers managed to nuke Colorado Springs.
     
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    Dial up Bush on the phone and lay this blame on him. Should do much to make his Saturday a terrific day...
     
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    If you were Bush, would you even own a phone?

    Hell, I wouldn't. No TV. No Radio. No Newspaper.......I'd spend all day writing my memoires and watching Bugs Bunny cartoons while sittin' in air conditioned comfort at my ranch in Crawford, TX
     
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    Sadly she is right.

    Even if her work is sloppy, even if she has an ax to grind.

    Look, both the right winger AND the left wingers (and let's face it, middle Americans who aren't especially politicial at all) agree that government is becoming increasingly imperious, intrusive and meanacing to what we once thought was our birthright not to be molested by government.

    Agree or no?

    It doesn't matter which party happens to be in power, this trend toward turning this nation into a police state is obvious and has been happening most of my adult lifetime.

    And what has been the NUMKBER ONE EXCUSE for giving our government greater and greater police power?

    The WAR ON DRUGS, folks.

    That is the number one rationaization for why the government MSUT continue to curtail American's freedom.

    Reap what ya sow, Americans.
     
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