The closing statement: My vote and why?

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  1. hylandrdet
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    For months, I'd battled back and forth between Bush and Kerry. I'd made my decision.

    The President of the United States... The most difficult job to ever hold in all of the world.

    In my opinion, 43 of the most respected men in the world has held this incredible job of literally carrying the world upon their shoulders. Some of them had the weight of the world being too much for them; some of them had the strength, but their lives were cut short; some of them managed to reach down deep within themselves and found a way to carry the load. So regardless of whoever wins this election, he will be the President of the United States and I will respect his' decisions, even if I don't like them.

    I'd examined both campaigns. Here are my likes and dislikes.

    What I'd hated about John Kerry campaign:

    He doesn't stand by his positions; he uses too much "PC" in his answers, thus allowing him room to change his mind and still sound like he's in the right.

    What I'd liked about John Kerry

    He's an honest man; I feel very confident that any mistake he makes as president he will acknowledge the mistake and correct it. He's very confident; he reminds me of Thomas Jefferson's attitude after the New York Press labeled him as "A threat to GOD and heaven".


    What I'd hated about George W. Bush

    He's in denial; he doesn't realize that he'd screwed up; therefore, he remains unrepentant in his stragedies after 9/11.

    He's a very good man with a very good heart; I respect him now more than ever as a person. However, there is a curse that comes with that position; when it comes to making the right choices for your country, you must sometimes break away from what you believe in and do the right thing. He knew the methods he'd used was wrong and he did it any way; I suspect political pressure.

    I'd liked about George W. Bush

    He's down to earth; you can't hate such a president. He tries very hard to handle our nation's problems; that's problably because he truly cares. I can see myself chewing the fat with him while fishing off the coast of Florida. He's welcome at my house any time.


    So what's the TIE BREAKER? Ironically enough, a statement that came from GW himself.

    When confronted about the missing ammunition in Iraq; George W Bush went on the offensive saying that you can't have a president that makes decisions WITHOUT HAVING THE FACTS. That burned me up!

    We started a war with Iraq over WMD's; there weren't any; we started a war WITHOUT HAVING THE FACTS.

    We started the search for Osama Bin Laden WITHOUT HAVING THE FACTS; he's still at large!

    We have a shortage of flu vaccines because WITHOUT HAVING THE FACTS; we chose to ignore this issue.

    Finally, we'd lost what would had been "the next golden age" of our economy; primarly because Bush gave away a 300 billion dollar surplus WITHOUT HAVING THE FACTS about its potential consequences.

    I agree with you 100% George W. Bush; we cannot afford to have a President that makes decisions WITHOUT HAVING THE FACTS. As of this moment, I have made my decision...

    MY VOTE IS FOR JOHN KERRY!

    This is hylandrdet and I approve this message!
     
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    Oh whopee-doo. I'm underwhelmed.

    You are the only one who thought that the rest of us have not known since your first post that you were a kerry supporter.

    Typical lib. You come here with your agenda, then post your "decision" like some B movie drama queen. Even worse, your basis for that decision is so contrived and specious that it is flatly laughable. The insulting part is that you think we'll buy an act as transparent and obvious as your's.

    Bud, you're going to have to refine that line of bullshit a lot more if you ever want to be a good liberal.

    :lame2: :lame2: :lame2: :lame2:
     
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    You suck at acting. Surprise someone and truly make your life a drama... go on a shooting spree.
     
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    Boy, I must say you really sounded torn. You had me on the edge of my seat wondering "Which way will he go? Bush? Kerry? Oh, pray tell, which way will his vote fall?"

    But alas, at the 11th hour, you have finally made your choice....John Kerry for President!!

    whew, that was a close one! ....... gimme a break! :bs1:

    Oh, and by the way, it might interest you to know that your man, Kerry also voted to go to war with Iraq "w/o all the facts" and as for Osama...well, I don't know what facts you're talking about but then again, apparently you don't either.

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    Here are FACTS regarding the war to take out Saddam and his regime:

    He was an evil bad guy.

    The war was about much more than just WMD's. this is an incredible oversimplfication. I suggest you review HJR 114, the resolution authorizing the war. You'll find that many more reasons were used (by an overwhleming majority of both ouses of Congress) to authorize the President to use force against Saddam's regime.

    Saddam did not comply with 1441. (if you disagree with this, just ask, but a quick revirew of ISG reports will bear this out quickly) The UN (namely France) refused to back up that resolution with anything but words and paper.

    It is a fact that Saddam refused to account for TONS of WMD's, precursors as well as numerous other hiddne WMD development programs - proven again by the ISG reports.

    Saddam also had proven, in fact, self-admitted links to terrorism. (Again, I can provde a list if you dispute this FACT.)

    Even Saddam's own gerneals did not know what WMD's did and did not exist. Saddam wanted everyone to think he had WMDs in order to keep from being taken out of power.

    Senator Kerry voted numerous times to cripple our intelligence. Not that I beleive that Saddam's bluff could've been revealed if Kerry had voted to bolster our intelligence, but it sure as heck didn't help matters. Remember, even Saddam's own generals did not know - and our intelligence was supposed to know?

    If was had not taken Saddam out, as it would've been with Kerry in office, 25 million people would, in all likelyhood, be subjected to the tyrannical rule of Saddam or his sons for God knows how many years to come.

    Thinks are not perfect in Iraq by any means but it is now a country which has the hope of democratic self-determination.


    We started the search for Osama Bin Laden WITHOUT HAVING THE FACTS; he's still at large!


    What the heck does this mean? To what facts are you referring?


    We have a shortage of flu vaccines because WITHOUT HAVING THE FACTS; we chose to ignore this issue.


    How you phrase this isvery telling: "WE chose to ignore...." yet you blame Bush.


    Finally, we'd lost what would had been "the next golden age" of our economy; primarly because Bush gave away a 300 billion dollar surplus WITHOUT HAVING THE FACTS about its potential consequences.

    It is a fact that Bush ingeritied a recession. This compounded with the nearly trillion dollar impact of 9/11 on our economy has much more to do with where we are now economically than enything Bush has done. Good or bad, I ve never thought any President is responsible for the economy. If you do, you need to take some econ classes.

    Given what our economy has been through, we are in surprisingly good shape. Of course, this has much more to do with the inherent strength of our economy than it does with anything that Bush has done/not done.

    Finally, do some research on debt levels for both the US and other countries - the sky is not falling.

    The worst thing for our economy (though it won't be the end of the world) is to have Kerry re-elected. This has more to do with market perceptions of Kerry than it does with anything else but, if Kerry is elected, don't expect an big economic surges as the market views his platform as one which will saddle the cout nry with even MORE debt. (Don't take my word for it, ask someone who works in the securities industry - ideally someone who isn't very political so you can get as close to an unbiased opinion as possible.)


    I agree with you 100% George W. Bush; we cannot afford to have a President that makes decisions WITHOUT HAVING THE FACTS. As of this moment, I have made my decision...

    MY VOTE IS FOR JOHN KERRY!

    This is hylandrdet and I approve this message!

    Feel free to vote for Kerry but do it because you agree with his social plan if you can actually figure out what it is and how he will pay for it - or how he plans to get it by a Republican Senate and Congress.

    But hey, gridlock ain't bad either.

    Also give serious consideration to the war on terror and whom you thkn will be more resolute and consistent.

    Cheers - so get out there and vote a week from Tuesday on November 9.

     
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    Seriously do you expect us to buy that you were undecided till now? Youve been pro Kerry ever since you got here.
     
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    Reading between the lines, what I see is:

    I have to say, you present some of the more impressive loads of bs I've seen on this board. For that, I salute you. :finger:
     
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    on another note

    1)If the intelligence agencies of most of Western Europe, the CIA, and army defectors tell me someone has WMDs, I will be inclined to believe he has them. Is that jumping to conclusions?

    2)It took 15 years to find the Unibomber in our own country. Finding a guy with an elaborate terrorist network in Pakistan is going to take time.

    3) A shortage of flu vaccine without having the facts? huh? How was GW to predict some moron in Britain let half the vaccines get contaminated?
     
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    And you, as well as the others, (Flying Duck, eseid, John Galt, Sir evil, Merlin1047) appear to be so very pro-Kerry from the beginning, then all of a sudden felt disillusioned and now favor Bush? :rolleyes:

    I can honestly look myself in the mirror and say that I given Bush every chance to change my mind. He'd failed because the Republican attacks on the Clinton administration had set the tone for our future presidencies; "we will not tolerate a president who lies about the facts".

    I was trying to be nice, and give him the benefit of the doubt, in suggesting that Bush's decisions were made without having the facts. He had the facts, he made his decisions, he won't own up to them and now he's unable to clean up the mess he'd made. This is not liberal nor conservative thinking, this is common sense kicking in. He not only failed to restore integrity to the presidency, he'd made it worse. Four years ago, only our nation had lost faith in the integrity of our presidency; it's four years later and the entire world has now lost faith in the integrity of our presidency.

    Bush is the Republican party's answer to Jimmy Carter, that's why I'd voted for Ronald Reagan then and that's why I'd voted for John Kerry now. Yes, I liked using the word "we" because it was "we" who'd voted him in. It was our fault, now it's time for us to correct our great error in judgement.

    The purpose of this thread is to tell us who you're voting for and why! Well... don't just stand there, make your case and stop crying like a pack of bitches!!!

    My salute to you :bsflag:
     

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