The cat is now out of the bag....

[rhodescholar]

Sources: UN watchdog hiding evidence of Iran nukes program - Haaretz - Israel News

Sources: UN watchdog hiding evidence of Iran nukes program

By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent

The world's nuclear weapons watchdog is hiding data on Iran's drive to obtain nuclear arms, senior Western diplomats and Israeli officials told Haaretz.

The officials and diplomats said that the International Atomic Energy Agency under Director General Mohamed ElBaradei was refraining from publishing evidence obtained by its inspectors over the past few months that indicate Iran was pursuing information about weaponization efforts and a military nuclear program.

ElBaradei, who will soon vacate his post, has said that the agency does not have any evidence that suggests Iran is developing a nuclear weapon.

But the sources told Haaretz that the new evidence was submitted to the IAEA in a classified annex written by its inspectors in the Islamic Republic. The report was said to have been signed by the head of the IAEA team in Iran.

The classified report, according to the sources, was not incorporated into the agency's published reports. The details, they said, were censored by senior officials of the IAEA in the organization's Vienna headquarters.

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KevinKenndy posted a thread about the alleged lack of evidence that iran is building nuclear weapons. He might want to retract that claim, and if this story is true, then ElBaradei is a bonafide fraud and potential criminal.

 

[Big Black Dog]

Please somebody tell us how all of this is Bush's fault. I know it's coming. I can hear the liberals tapping on their keyboards now...

 

[L.K.Eder]

Please somebody tell us how all of this is Bush's fault. I know it's coming. I can hear the liberals tapping on their keyboards now...

shut up, one trick pony.

 

[L.K.Eder]

I am really interested how the next sessions in September will play.

Baradei is on his way to retirement.

Iran is on the way to a nuclear weapon. (my opinion)

What will the European and US politicians put on the table?

 

[JenT]

I am really interested how the next sessions in September will play.

Baradei is on his way to retirement.

Iran is on the way to a nuclear weapon. (my opinion)

What will the European and US politicians put on the table?

I don't know about Obama, but Clinton wrote the religious guidelines for public school with a man currently in jail for terrorism. Along with Clinton's appointed judge Hamilton, teachers can now have our kids on their hands and knees praying and worshipping Allah *in demonstration*, but memorized by heart just the same.

That was worth more than 100 suicide bombers.

 

[L.K.Eder]

I am really interested how the next sessions in September will play.

Baradei is on his way to retirement.

Iran is on the way to a nuclear weapon. (my opinion)

What will the European and US politicians put on the table?

I don't know about Obama, but Clinton wrote the religious guidelines for public school with a man currently in jail for terrorism. Along with Clinton's appointed judge Hamilton, teachers can now have our kids on their hands and knees praying and worshipping Allah *in demonstration*, but memorized by heart just the same.

That was worth more than 100 suicide bombers.

you are off topic and should find the next suicide bomber, maybe you can convert him or her, you have that charming quality, you just might pull it off, rock on, the crusade is yours!

 

[rhodescholar]

I guess the question comes down to WHY would ElBaradei choose to obfuscate and withhold evidence, information that has been suspected for quite some time?

If evidence was handled this way by, say the police, they would be imprisoned for doing so. Is it possible that one day ElBaradei could be tried and convicted for this treachery...

Further, it basically makes the incoming IAEA head look like he is either stupid, or a fool - but incompetent and out of the loop at best, since he re-iterated what ElBaradei said, that: "there is no evidence of a nuclear weapons program." So either he too was lying, or was considered incompetent by the IAEA staff, and prevented from being told.

 

[JenT]

I am really interested how the next sessions in September will play.

Baradei is on his way to retirement.

Iran is on the way to a nuclear weapon. (my opinion)

What will the European and US politicians put on the table?

I don't know about Obama, but Clinton wrote the religious guidelines for public school with a man currently in jail for terrorism. Along with Clinton's appointed judge Hamilton, teachers can now have our kids on their hands and knees praying and worshipping Allah *in demonstration*, but memorized by heart just the same.

That was worth more than 100 suicide bombers.

you are off topic and should find the next suicide bomber, maybe you can convert him or her, you have that charming quality, you just might pull it off, rock on, the crusade is yours!

Off topic? Not. Rhodes asked what they would put on the table and I'm just hoping it won't be our kids again.

 

[L.K.Eder]

I don't know about Obama, but Clinton wrote the religious guidelines for public school with a man currently in jail for terrorism. Along with Clinton's appointed judge Hamilton, teachers can now have our kids on their hands and knees praying and worshipping Allah *in demonstration*, but memorized by heart just the same.

That was worth more than 100 suicide bombers.

you are off topic and should find the next suicide bomber, maybe you can convert him or her, you have that charming quality, you just might pull it off, rock on, the crusade is yours!

Off topic? Not. Rhodes asked what they would put on the table and I'm just hoping it won't be our kids again.

i asked the table question.

now hiding behind the kids, helen lovejoy?

 

[JenT]

I guess the question comes down to WHY would ElBaradei choose to obfuscate and withhold evidence, information that has been suspected for quite some time?

If evidence was handled this way by, say the police, they would be imprisoned for doing so. Is it possible that one day ElBaradei could be tried and convicted for this treachery...

Further, it basically makes the incoming IAEA head look like he is either stupid, or a fool - but incompetent and out of the loop at best, since he re-iterated what ElBaradei said, that: "there is no evidence of a nuclear weapons program." So either he too was lying, or was considered incompetent by the IAEA staff, and prevented from being told.

I don't think ElBaradei will be held accountable any more than Sandy Berger was

 

[JenT]

you are off topic and should find the next suicide bomber, maybe you can convert him or her, you have that charming quality, you just might pull it off, rock on, the crusade is yours!

Off topic? Not. Rhodes asked what they would put on the table and I'm just hoping it won't be our kids again.

i asked the table question.

Oh. Well (slap) stop misdirecting me

 

[L.K.Eder]

I guess the question comes down to WHY would ElBaradei choose to obfuscate and withhold evidence, information that has been suspected for quite some time?

If evidence was handled this way by, say the police, they would be imprisoned for doing so. Is it possible that one day ElBaradei could be tried and convicted for this treachery...

Further, it basically makes the incoming IAEA head look like he is either stupid, or a fool - but incompetent and out of the loop at best, since he re-iterated what ElBaradei said, that: "there is no evidence of a nuclear weapons program." So either he too was lying, or was considered incompetent by the IAEA staff, and prevented from being told.

your question is loaded. elbaradei is the head of iaea. you sound like a conspiracy theorist. you are already blaming the japanese who will head the iaea soon.

elbaradei is an egyptian so he must be wrong, the incoming japanese is a fool or incompetent . clearly the head of the iaea should be an israeli. but the israeli head of the iaea would also not be able find evidence. remember the catch-22 we talked about?

stop blaming elbaradei, wait for the september sessions, and we will see, deal?

 

[JenT]

I guess the question comes down to WHY would ElBaradei choose to obfuscate and withhold evidence, information that has been suspected for quite some time?

If evidence was handled this way by, say the police, they would be imprisoned for doing so. Is it possible that one day ElBaradei could be tried and convicted for this treachery...

Further, it basically makes the incoming IAEA head look like he is either stupid, or a fool - but incompetent and out of the loop at best, since he re-iterated what ElBaradei said, that: "there is no evidence of a nuclear weapons program." So either he too was lying, or was considered incompetent by the IAEA staff, and prevented from being told.

your question is loaded. elbaradei is the head of iaea. you sound like a conspiracy theorist. you are already blaming the japanese who will head the iaea soon.

elbaradei is an egyptian so he must be wrong, the incoming japanese is a fool or incompetent . clearly the head of the iaea should be an israeli. but the israeli head of the iaea would also not be able find evidence. remember the catch-22 we talked about?

stop blaming elbaradei, wait for the september sessions, and we will see, deal?

He brought a news topic to the forum and is speculating, sheesh

I'm interested, if you don't like it, how many other threads are there? (opening the door for L.K....)

 

[JenT]

This is what I like about it:

American, French, British and German senior officials have recently pressured ElBaradei to publish the information next month in a report due to be released at the organization's general conference.

It's nice that we're not the Lone Ranger again (and Sarkozy loved Pres. Bush...just sayin)

 

[Shogun]

I am really interested how the next sessions in September will play.

Baradei is on his way to retirement.

Iran is on the way to a nuclear weapon. (my opinion)

What will the European and US politicians put on the table?

I don't know about Obama, but Clinton wrote the religious guidelines for public school with a man currently in jail for terrorism. Along with Clinton's appointed judge Hamilton, teachers can now have our kids on their hands and knees praying and worshipping Allah *in demonstration*, but memorized by heart just the same.

That was worth more than 100 suicide bombers.

yea, sure, dogma junkie. SURE. Public schools are WARPING NUBILE BRAINS AND FORCING PRAYER TO ALLAH!!!!!





seriously.. EVERY TIME I see your posts it becomes clearer how Geraldo was able to whip up the devil worshiping frenzy of the 80s.

 

[Shogun]

I guess the question comes down to WHY would ElBaradei choose to obfuscate and withhold evidence, information that has been suspected for quite some time?

If evidence was handled this way by, say the police, they would be imprisoned for doing so. Is it possible that one day ElBaradei could be tried and convicted for this treachery...

Further, it basically makes the incoming IAEA head look like he is either stupid, or a fool - but incompetent and out of the loop at best, since he re-iterated what ElBaradei said, that: "there is no evidence of a nuclear weapons program." So either he too was lying, or was considered incompetent by the IAEA staff, and prevented from being told.

to be honest, with Israel's record of throwing muck on anyone who doesn't tow their line it's really not even remotely interesting to see them do the same to the IAEA. AGAIN. Accusations don't amount to evidence even if your pet ethnicity promises you they are not lying.

Hell, the WORLD knows that israel is itching to kill iranians like a pederast yearns to prowl a playground. You'll have to forgive the rest of us if we are not as automatically convinced as you seem to be.

 

[rhodescholar]

Hell, the WORLD knows that israel is itching to kill iranians like a pederast yearns to prowl a playground. You'll have to forgive the rest of us if we are not as automatically convinced as you seem to be.

Please provide evidence of this desire to mass murder iranians.

Given iran's support for hamas, islamic jihad, and hezbollah, the evidence to the contrary is vast...

 

[Shogun]

Hell, the WORLD knows that israel is itching to kill iranians like a pederast yearns to prowl a playground. You'll have to forgive the rest of us if we are not as automatically convinced as you seem to be.

Please provide evidence of this desire to mass murder iranians.

Given iran's support for hamas, islamic jihad, and hezbollah, the evidence to the contrary is vast...

Log onto the Jpost daily and enjoy. Given your willingness to believe that the only good unjun is a dead injun something is vast, alright.. But hey.. let me pull the rug out from under you and dare you to post YOUR evidence that Iran is seeking a nuke that doesn't come from a JEWISH SOURCE. It's funny how bias and evidence becomes less necessary than the actual accusation depending on ethnicity, eh?

 

[rhodescholar]

Log onto the Jpost daily and enjoy. Given your willingness to believe that the only good unjun is a dead injun something is vast, alright.. But hey.. let me pull the rug out from under you and dare you to post YOUR evidence that Iran is seeking a nuke that doesn't come from a JEWISH SOURCE. It's funny how bias and evidence becomes less necessary than the actual accusation depending on ethnicity, eh?

Please provide evidence that jpost is a jewish source, esp. since a large number of the reporters and editors are not.

And iran has already stated publiclly it is going to attain nuclear power status, and it is publiclly known that it has at least 6 nuclear facilities around the nation.

 

[rhodescholar]

Here is an article on the issue from a VERY non-jewish source:

Iran Focus

UN urged to tell all on Iran atomic work-diplomats
Thursday, 20 August 2009
By Louis Charbonneau

UNITED NATIONS, Aug 20 (Reuters) - Western powers, which are considering new sanctions against Iran, are urging the U.N. nuclear watchdog to reveal all the information it has that suggests Tehran is pursuing atomic weapons, diplomats said.

The United States, Britain, France and Germany are planning to hold high-level talks on Iran's nuclear program with Russia and China next month on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly in New York, Western diplomats say.

At that meeting, they say, the four Western powers will attempt to persuade Moscow and Beijing of the need for a fourth round of U.N. sanctions that would target Iran's energy sector, an idea Russia and China have resisted. Both Moscow and Beijing have strong trade relations with the Islamic Republic.

The six powers have offered Iran economic and political incentives in exchange for freezing its uranium enrichment program, but Tehran has not responded to the offer and has refused to halt any of its nuclear activities. It insists its atomic program will only produce electricity, never weapons.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said in an interview with a German newspaper that if no progress is made in talks with Iran it might have to face "further sanctions" targeting its energy sector. Three rounds of U.N. asset freezes and travel bans focused only on Tehran's nuclear and missile industries.

U.S. President Barack Obama has given Iran until September to take up the six powers' offer or face harsher penalties.

To make a strong case for more sanctions to Russia and China, diplomats said the four Western powers have been urging Mohamed ElBaradei, the outgoing head of the Vienna-based U.N. nuclear watchdog, to reveal information on Iran he has and which they say could help bring Russia and China around.

ElBaradei is expected to circulate his latest International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) report on Iran to the agency's governing board and the U.N. Security Council as early as next week. Western diplomats said they hoped he would include unreleased information the IAEA has gathered on Iran.

UNRELEASED INFORMATION

One senior Western diplomat said that some of that information related to Iran's so-called "alleged studies" into building an actual nuclear weapon.

"The alleged studies are more than alleged," the diplomat said on condition of anonymity, adding that ElBaradei has for years been "overly cautious" about his Iran reports.

Romain Nadal, a spokesman for the French Foreign Ministry, told reporters in Paris on Wednesday that France would like the new IAEA report on Iran to be as comprehensive as possible.

"Several pending questions posed by the IAEA, relating to activities with a military dimension, still remain unanswered," Nadal said. "We want the next IAEA report to be as exhaustive as possible, including on this (military) aspect."

The diplomats acknowledged that the IAEA does not have any hard evidence proving undeniably that Iran wants atomic bombs.

However, several said the agency does have credible information suggesting that a U.S. intelligence estimate that Iran ended an atomic weapons program in 2003 was incorrect.

"It would be useful if all the evidence and the agency's assessment be included in a summary form in an annex to be attached to the next regular IAEA report on Iran," a Western diplomat said. "This would also help counter some of the false or misleading arguments put forward by Iran."

Some Western and Israeli officials have gone further over the years -- accusing ElBaradei of deliberately understating the case against Iran to undermine the U.N. sanctions drive.

A Vienna diplomat close to the IAEA angrily dismissed suggestions that the agency has been withholding evidence.

"It is deeply disturbing that baseless and malicious allegations have been made," the diplomat said, adding that the agency relied on an "independent, impartial and exhaustive verification and investigation procedure." (Additional reporting by Sylvia Westall in Vienna, Noah Barkin and Madeline Chambers in Berlin; Editing by Cynthia Osterman)