That's It!! Im Quitting My Job And Applying For Welfare.......

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    Welfare Pays Better Than Work, Study Finds
    $36,000 a Year in Hawaii


    Welfare benefits are far more generous than commonly thought and

    substantially exceed the amount a recipient could earn in an entry-level

    job. As a result, recipients are likely to choose welfare over work,

    increasing long-term dependence. Those are the principal findings in "The

    Work vs. Welfare Trade-Off" (Policy Analysis no. 240) by Michael Tanner,

    director of health and welfare studies; Stephen Moore, director of fiscal

    policy studies; and David Hartman, CEO of Hartland Bank in Austin, Texas.

    The paper was released at the height of the welfare debate in Congress.



    The study examines the combined value of benefits--including Aid to

    Families with Dependent Children, food stamps, Medicaid, and others--for

    a typical welfare recipient in each of the 50 states. The value of those

    tax-free benefits is then compared with the amount of take-home income a

    worker would have left after paying taxes on an equivalent pretax income.

    The following are among the study's findings.



    * To match the value of welfare benefits, a mother with two children would

    have to earn as much as $36,400 in Hawaii or as little as $11,500 in

    Mississippi.


    * In New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, the District of Columbia,

    Hawaii, Alaska, and Rhode Island, welfare pays more than a $12.00-an-hour

    job--or more than two and a half times the minimum wage.


    * In 40 states welfare pays more than an $8.00-an-hour job. In 17 states

    the welfare package is more generous than a $10.00-an-hour job.


    * Welfare benefits are especially generous in large cities. Welfare

    provides the equivalent of an hourly pretax wage of $14.75 in New York

    City, $12.45 in Philadelphia, $11.35 in Baltimore, and $10.90 in Detroit.


    * In 9 states welfare pays more than the average first-year salary for a

    teacher. In 29 states it pays more than the average starting salary for a

    secretary. In 47 states welfare pays more than a janitor earns. Indeed, in

    the 6 most generous states, benefits exceed the entry-level salary for a

    computer programmer.



    The authors conclude that if Congress or state governments are serious

    about reducing welfare dependence and rewarding work, the most promising

    reform is to cut benefit levels substantially.



    The study has been the subject of major news coverage. In a September 28

    Wall Street Journal guest column, Tanner and Moore wrote, "The welfare

    reform proposals just passed by the Senate, and the earlier House version,

    are designed to reduce 'hard-core' welfare dependency and reward work. But

    we believe the most critical public policy implication of our findings is

    that ultimately these goals can be accomplished only by cutting benefit

    levels substantially. Unless and until this is done, Congress will have

    failed to end welfare as we know it."



    Hourly Wage Equivalent of Welfare


    Hawaii $17.50

    Alaska 15.48

    Massachusetts 14.66

    Connecticut 14.23

    Washington, D.C. 13.99

    New York 13.13

    New Jersey 12.74

    Rhode Island 12.55

    California 11.59

    Virginia 11.11

    Maryland 10.96

    New Hampshire 10.96

    Maine 10.38

    Delaware 10.34

    Colorado 10.05

    Vermont 10.05

    Minnesota 10.00

    Washington 9.95

    Nevada 9.71

    Utah 9.57

    Michigan 9.47

    Pennsylvania 9.47

    Illinois 9.33

    Wisconsin 9.33

    Oregon 9.23

    Wyoming 9.18

    Indiana 9.13

    Iowa 9.13

    New Mexico 8.94

    Florida 8.75

    Idaho 8.65

    Oklahoma 8.51

    Kansas 8.46

    North Dakota 8.46

    Georgia 8.37

    Ohio 8.37

    South Dakata 8.32

    Louisana 8.17

    Kentucky 8.08

    North Carolina 8.08

    Montana 7.84

    South Carolina 7.79

    Nebraska 7.64

    Texas 7.31

    West Virginia 7.31

    Missouri 7.16

    Arizona 6.78

    Tennessee 6.59

    Arkansas 6.35

    Alabama 6.25

    Mississippi 5.53

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    Amazing isn't it------now I guess you understand the true nature of the subsidy. We just pay people to do nothing and they can live that way quite comfortably. ( and will tell you they still deserve more )
     
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    Dillo:

    Any idea how much cash per month one check in Austin is worth?
     
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    I'm not sure I understand you question--sorry. try again?
     
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    $9.95 per hour... that's only slightly above minimum wage ($7.35/hr).
     
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    Any idea how much the average welfare check per month, minus non-cash benefits. Just out of curiosity.
     
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    why aren't our elected officials after this one instead of picking on the SSA receipients...they make the same no matter which state they live in...and must pay a premium for medacare part B...and actually contributed to their own retirement...and still receive much less than most amounts posted in this thread! :eek:
     
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    All I know is that they can afford to live, eat, drive, buy clothes, buy electronics, have medical and dental needs attended to etc etc. It depends on the amount of social security they receive or if they are on a "disability". There are numerous ways to "beat" the system to qualify for way more welfare programs than they are legally eligible for.
    Short answer is they get checks and benefits from several different sources and there are those who will help them take advantage of every one.
    Monitoring is virtually non-existant.
     
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    Ok.
     
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    The truth would come out---you simply cannot make people work and in America you HAVE to take care of everybody. Social Security recipients would be far better off living off welfare in many cases but I guess they have a sense of responsibility or a conscience .
     

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