Terrorist Aquited on over 200 counts.

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    Another victory for the Hussein administration.

    Landmark terror trial ends in not-guilty verdict on all but one count - CNN.com


    The US put on over 40 witnesses, and defense put on none and only took 20 minutes to make their case. Judge threw out the testamony of one terrorist because he was allegedly "tortured".

    At least he was found guilty on one conspiracy charge and faces 20+ years.

    A pathetic defeat of Obama's claim that we can have these assholes put on trial in civilian courts.
     
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    Looks like they knew they were losing, 3 days ago:

    Obama to detain KSM indefinitely without trial at all? Hot Air

     
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    "Potentially life" my ass. These trials are not meant to convict anyone but the previous administration.
     
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    Wouldn't be surprised if the Hussein pardons him for the one conviction. I mean obviously he isn't a terrorist if he was not guiltyy on 284 counts.
     
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    So, lemme see if I grasp this theory of yours, theHawk. The government aka "the Hussein Administration" blew the case on purpose (cleverly concealing their real agenda by putting on over 40 witnesses) and the prosecutor is out celebrating tonight?

    Bullshit.

    I am unsure what should be done with these guys from GITMO but if the US Atty did not make his case to a NEW YORK CITY jury, he was never gonna be able to make it. The defendant was found not guilty for only one reason -- he wasn't.

    Please stop using all the tinfoil for hats. We'll need some next week for the turkey.
     
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    You know something none of us knows? Why's it impossible there are innocent people in GITMO?
     
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    You're not "innocent" if you are fingered by other terrorists under interrogation techniques someone doesn't like.
     
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    KSM's trial should have been over long time ago. He should be worm food by now.
     
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    No disagreement here. Yet it seems now that Obama and Holder will just let them all rot at Gitmo, no trials since their plan failed. There are no words for the incompetence.
     
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    So your arguement is that the Hussein really really does believe these guys are terrorists and can be convicted in civilian courts, and they spent all these millions of dollars and put on 40+ witnesses vs a virtual no defense and STILL LOST. So he didn't intentionally blow the case, his DoJ just did it out of complete and utter incompetence. Gotcha. :eusa_whistle:

    The jury had to be escorted everywhere by marshalls and names kept secret, they very well could of been scared for their lives knowing terrorists would love to find out who they are and target them.
     
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    I really wish threads would be merged.

    Anyways, seems like the enlightened judgment regarding civilian trials was a bust. No surprise there. Now they are going to let the others just sit at Gitmo for the foreseeable future, no trials since their idea failed.
     
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    How about let the Military Tribunals handle them, just as they have been.

    But I keep forgetting you leftists hate the military and don't trust their judgement in such cases.
     
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    well annie, "There are no words for the incompetence" , true and I am wondering where the words of outrage are from the the usual suspects on the left as to this man not getting his day in court and the pres. basically saying hes locked and will stay locked up sans due process carried out to its final extent?

    And what happened to "alleged" murderer?;)
    and the idiocy continues, they are completely adrift....unbelievable.
     
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    from the link-

    The case was considered a test-run for the Obama administration's politically-charged effort to try Guantanamo Bay detainees - including Al Qaeda mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed - in civilian court.


    if this was a "test run" it failed abysmally. Now what?

    I'd like to see what exactly, in particular they failed to drive home what evidence they had successfully. I have to assume, they had the evidence to make the connections necessary ....why didn't they?

    oops;

    they had to have known or suspected this would happened...unreal.
     
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    If you cannot prove this man's guilt to a NYC jury, he ain't guilty.

    Why is this a possibility the right cannot imagine?
     
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    then why don't they try KSM?
     
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    Maddy, terrorism is a Military problem, not a civil problem. At least that's the way I see it. Remember that congress (controlled by the left) set up the Military Tribunals approved by the Supreme Court. Obama decided to change things after the trials had started. It is a miserable failure. And it's getting back to what is and is not torture. This could get very very ugly for the Obama team.
     
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    Who?

    I did not sit through this trial, Trajan. I dun have the transcripts, I have not spoken to the jury, and I did not watch it on tv.

    But if you cannot get a NYC jury to convict on terrorism charges, the government ain't never gonna get a conviction. Absent some arcania about admissible evidence, the verdict should be no different in any other tribunal.

    The man just ain't guilty.
     
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    So convicting McVeigh in a court of law was a bad thing?
     

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