Tea partier calls Boehner a socialist......

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    Tea Party Candidate: John Boehner Is A Socialist | Mediaite

    Still think that the tea party is good for the GOP?
     
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    Boehner is a ruling class douchebag, cut from the same cloth as Newterd Gingweasel.

    Wouldn't faze me a bit if I never had to look at that George Hamilton wannabe ever again.
     
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    oh brother. who cares. and the TEA PARTY isn't beholding to the Gop or the Democrats.

    As they better start FIGURING that out REAL FAST.
     
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    What in the hell makes you think the TP's goal is to be good for the GOP?

    We're as pissed at the central planners in the that party as we are in the other. The idea isn't to win the White House and both houses of Congress for the GOP, it's to return fiscal sanity and a modicum of respect for limited government to Washington and for that matter, state level politics. Whichever party gets that accomplished is fine by us. Just so happens that these days, the Democrats are going in completely the opposite direction of limited government and individual liberty. Some Republicans get it, others don't.
     
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    Actually, the teabaggers were started by Ron Paul and further enhanced by Dick Army and the Koch brothers.
     
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    Fiscal sanity? Fuck dude........the tax cuts have FAILED for the past 11 years.

    Incidentally, the "job creators" like the Koch brothers have increased their wealth over the past couple of years while cutting jobs from their companies.

    And.......fwiw.........I've never heard a Democrat or Independent who had any sense about how the world works speak favorably about the tea party.
     
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    In that they’re good for the democrats.

    Obviously Boehner’s not a ‘socialist,’ whatever that’s supposed to mean. But Boehner’s clearly not TPM material – he’s a slick, inside the Beltway wheeling, dealing career politician. And that will continue to be the major point of friction between Boehner and the TPM.
     
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    See........that's what the problem currently is with the GOP. They've spent the past couple of years increasing vitriolic rhetoric against Obama that it's become second nature to them.

    Now? When they're forced to debate each other?

    They don't come up with ideas about how things should work, they just call nasty names at each other like they've becomed accustomed to doing with Obama.
     
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    In theory the TPM is supposed to be ‘anti-career politician, anti- business as usual,’ they’re as angry at the GOP establishment as much as the democratic. The problem is that’s just not how Washington works, it never has and it never will. Boehner knows this and pays them lip-service but isn’t a ‘true believer,’ and the TPM faction of the GOP knows this.

    So the two factions don’t disagree on the issues per se but on the ‘degree of the issues.’ Boehner want’s to ‘cut taxes’ (but not too much…); the TPM gets mad because Boehner doesn’t want to cut enough (which to the TPM is everything; their fantasy is to close down Washington altogether and have 50 independent countries). Consequently Boehner gets called a ‘socialist.’
     
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    You talk of tax cuts over the past 11 years, I say if the federal government lived within the confines of the Constitution, we would need no income tax. I consider the very idea of taxing a man's labor offensive...we used to have word for when men were forced to labor for the benefit of others or face the loss of their freedom. But that's an intellectual argument. Today, either a low, flat tax or the fair tax would generate more revenue and favor growth, as would a low and non-loophole flat corporate tax. Taxing capital gains discourages investment in America and should be avoided as much as possible. Do this while cutting all the unnecessary spending, most of which should be state issues anyway. Balance the damn budget and call off the dogs in the EPA and all the other regulator hall monitors we have ourselves a growing economy. Only fiscal/Constitutional conservatives (which today means TP or Libertarian) have the balls to save the Republic.

    As far as the Kochs or any other person in business that competes effectively through improved efficiency, well, that's called capitalism and as a consumer who benefits from the reduced price of buying that efficient business's products or services, I appreciate the money I have left over...which I just might use to buy something else. Hey, how about that? The economy just grew because entrepreneurs and savvy business people appealed to more customers. Excellent. And, if the Kochs can put more in their pocket for their risk and effort, good for them. If they we're taking too much out of the company, their product would lose competitiveness.

    The fiscally and Constitutionally conservative side of Libertarianism has never been farther apart from the current Democratic spending orgy. Same was true for Rs with President Bush's big spending/Patriot Act, etc but we're now off the charts and headed for, well, $20+trillion of debt? Not if I can help it.
     

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