Tax the Rich? Tax the Millionaires!

[drsmith1072]

Typical liberal bullshit.
You got it, I don't. I want it. You can't have it.
Blah blah blah.

*yawn*

The funny and ironic part is, they had from 2007-2010 absolute power to do whatever they wanted, and didn't do jack squat.

Super Majority Democrat led Congress, with two years of a Democrat President also, and yet ALL of the problems still exist, just greatly magnified! And NO complaints about that at all, from the flail-0's of the world and their ilk!

Go back and check your numbers again. The dems did not have a supermajority for the dates that you listed.
An argument, like yours, that begins on a fallacy is doomed to fail.

 

[Flaylo]

It must really suck to spend one's entire existence in a perpetual state of envy and resentment.

Like you, the one who envies public teachers who make good money with good benefits, you're a fucking hypocrite.

 

[DiamondDave]

The call for selective equal treatment by government, yet again by liberal wingers....

Yawn

Look to the right's recent arguments concerning unions and how the public sector union members have it better than their private sector counter parts to see the right's support for selective equal treatement.

Get rid of them all, equally

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

It must really suck to spend one's entire existence in a perpetual state of envy and resentment.

Like you, the one who envies public teachers who make good money with good benefits, you're a fucking hypocrite.

That's it? A "I know you are but what am I" response?

Dumb kid.

 

[drsmith1072]

A tangential example of right-wing hypocrisy

They agree that...

Banning same sex marriage is equal treatment because the law is applied equally to all people.

They disagree that...

Progressive taxation is equal treatment because it is applied equally to all people.


Carry on

ehhhh.. wrong answer, asswipe

You see... many of us want the government out of marriage and want every person treated the same in terms of inheritance, taxation, power of attorney in emergencies, etc (you know, things government does have a right with its nose in) for any recognized family couple.... being against gay people being deemed 'married', forcing acceptance, etc is quite different....

Nice try

Actually no, it's not different. Merely stating "wrong answer" then spewing a line of bs right wing talking points claiming there is a difference while failing to show one is not a valid response.

The right loves the DOMA and that is nothing more than an attempt to force acceptance of their myopic view on marriage. Therefore, claiming forced acceptance as if it's a bad thing based solely on the fact that the item being accepted runs counter to your predisposed opinons is hardly a valid counter to what was said.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

It must really suck to spend one's entire existence in a perpetual state of envy and resentment.

Like you, the one who envies public teachers who make good money with good benefits, you're a fucking hypocrite.

With MY tax dollars !!!!!!!
Big difference !!!

 

[M14 Shooter]

You all realize that you cannot possibly 'tax the millionaires' enough to make any real difference in the deficit - right?

There aren't enough of them, and they, as a group, don't make enough money.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Millionaires grow with the stock market.

Last year the number of millionaire households in the US increased by 600,000.

Also in 2010 the US added 5,000,000 Americans to the national food stamp program.

With the stock market soaring over 100 percent from March 2009 lows, the richest 1% of the US population now controls 42% of all financial wealth.

Don't expect to hear/read these numbers in the corporate press.

The financial scam of...

Um. Don't you know the difference between Income and Net Worth?

A net worth of $1 Million is not that much, and for most people, the largest share of it is the equity in their homes, with the second largest bit being their 401Ks.

Indeed. I know someone with several million dollars net worth and an income of $60k/yr

 

[manifold]

A tangential example of right-wing hypocrisy

They agree that...

Banning same sex marriage is equal treatment because the law is applied equally to all people.

They disagree that...

Progressive taxation is equal treatment because it is applied equally to all people.


Carry on

ehhhh.. wrong answer, asswipe

You see... many of us want the government out of marriage and want every person treated the same in terms of inheritance, taxation, power of attorney in emergencies, etc (you know, things government does have a right with its nose in) for any recognized family couple.... being against gay people being deemed 'married', forcing acceptance, etc is quite different....

Nice try

Actually no, it's not different. Merely stating "wrong answer" then spewing a line of bs right wing talking points claiming there is a difference while failing to show one is not a valid response.

The right loves the DOMA and that is nothing more than an attempt to force acceptance of their myopic view on marriage. Therefore, claiming forced acceptance as if it's a bad thing based solely on the fact that the item being accepted runs counter to your predisposed opinons is hardly a valid counter to what was said.

Go easy on Double Douche, he's just defending the honor of right-wing hypocrites everywhere. Afterall, that is the group my tangent addressed.

 

[The Gadfly]

Millionaires grow with the stock market.

Last year the number of millionaire households in the US increased by 600,000.

Also in 2010 the US added 5,000,000 Americans to the national food stamp program.

With the stock market soaring over 100 percent from March 2009 lows, the richest 1% of the US population now controls 42% of all financial wealth.

Don't expect to hear/read these numbers in the corporate press.

The financial scam of...

Um. Don't you know the difference between Income and Net Worth?

A net worth of $1 Million is not that much, and for most people, the largest share of it is the equity in their homes, with the second largest bit being their 401Ks.

Now, now, how dare you tell the truth! We can't have that! Jump on the democrat band wagon! Hate your neighbor, if he dares make more than you! Hate anyone, who has achieved more than you! They....they...they're RICH, and we can't have that! Someone has a bigger house, tax it away from him! Someone has a nicer car? Tax it away from him! That's the democrat spirit, tax and covet, tax and envy, tax and HATE! Damn them anyway, those nasty rich people; oh, I know they aren't really plutocrats, most of them, just upper middle class, but still they make more than I do! They COULDN'T have worked for it, they COULDN'T have earned it.....I know, they stole it from ME! Tax them! Tax them to death, I say! Evil republicans! How dare they let those people keep what they earned! Why the very idea! Besides, Where are we to get the money for more social programs and more entitlements to buy more democrat votes with? We know how to spend their money better than they do anyway! Envy is good! Jealousy is good! Covetousness is the good! Hate is good (it gets us votes, remember?)

Look, there's one now, a local entrepreneur; damn him and his kind, for being more successful than me! Tax him! Why, he should be grateful; back during the French Revolution, we Jacobins and our mobs would have had his head! We'll let him live, so long as he's made to live like the poor; see how fair and generous we democrats are?

 

[Finnguy]

Millionaires grow with the stock market.

Last year the number of millionaire households in the US increased by 600,000.

Also in 2010 the US added 5,000,000 Americans to the national food stamp program.

With the stock market soaring over 100 percent from March 2009 lows, the richest 1% of the US population now controls 42% of all financial wealth.

Don't expect to hear/read these numbers in the corporate press.

The financial scam of...

If 600 000 households became millionaires, then why do you not find out what they are doing to achieve that success, do what it takes, and do it? Or do you expect it to magically fall into your lap?
You sure as fuck won't find it on this messageboard crying about other people succeeding.

Yeah, all those people on welfare are rich. That makes no sense. Welfare doesn't make people rich. I make 30,000 a year as a teacher and I know someone who makes less than half of that on welfare. He's been searching for a job since the economy collapsed and I can't even help him get one, they've only just started hiring.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Millionaires grow with the stock market.

Last year the number of millionaire households in the US increased by 600,000.

Also in 2010 the US added 5,000,000 Americans to the national food stamp program.

With the stock market soaring over 100 percent from March 2009 lows, the richest 1% of the US population now controls 42% of all financial wealth.

Don't expect to hear/read these numbers in the corporate press.

The financial scam of...

If 600 000 households became millionaires, then why do you not find out what they are doing to achieve that success, do what it takes, and do it? Or do you expect it to magically fall into your lap?
You sure as fuck won't find it on this messageboard crying about other people succeeding.

Yeah, all those people on welfare are rich. That makes no sense. Welfare doesn't make people rich. I make 30,000 a year as a teacher and I know someone who makes less than half of that on welfare. He's been searching for a job since the economy collapsed and I can't even help him get one, they've only just started hiring.

Peaking of making no sense...

 

[DiamondDave]

A tangential example of right-wing hypocrisy

They agree that...

Banning same sex marriage is equal treatment because the law is applied equally to all people.

They disagree that...

Progressive taxation is equal treatment because it is applied equally to all people.


Carry on

ehhhh.. wrong answer, asswipe

You see... many of us want the government out of marriage and want every person treated the same in terms of inheritance, taxation, power of attorney in emergencies, etc (you know, things government does have a right with its nose in) for any recognized family couple.... being against gay people being deemed 'married', forcing acceptance, etc is quite different....

Nice try

Actually no, it's not different. Merely stating "wrong answer" then spewing a line of bs right wing talking points claiming there is a difference while failing to show one is not a valid response.

The right loves the DOMA and that is nothing more than an attempt to force acceptance of their myopic view on marriage. Therefore, claiming forced acceptance as if it's a bad thing based solely on the fact that the item being accepted runs counter to your predisposed opinons is hardly a valid counter to what was said.

I am not forced to accept choices of others in this country... that is, unless it is gay marriage...

What I stated is far from BS... it is the way that equality can be preserved in government in relation to 'married' people, family couples, civil unions, or whatever else you wish to call arrangements between 2 grown adults to form a family unit

People can be asked not to discriminate against, tolerate, or whatever else... but forced to accept someone else's lifestyle choice, that is not the business of government

 

[georgephillip]

It must really suck to spend one's entire existence in a perpetual state of envy and resentment.

If a blue collar mugger beats you like a rented mule and steals your house and pension, is it resentful or envious to call 911?

What if 911 rewards your mugger with zero percent interest rates and tells you to stop whining?

Does your ideology blind you to the fact that the housing/credit bubbles were premeditated crimes?

 

[georgephillip]

It must really suck to spend one's entire existence in a perpetual state of envy and resentment.

Like you, the one who envies public teachers who make good money with good benefits, you're a fucking hypocrite.

With MY tax dollars !!!!!!!
Big difference !!!

Your tax dollars also played a big role in the multi-trillion dollar bailout of Wall Street. Which enabled the stock market to recover from its March 2009 lows. Which is the biggest reason 600,000 new millionaires were minted in 2010.

Teachers are productive.
Wall Street investment banks are parasites.
Bigger difference!

 

[georgephillip]

You all realize that you cannot possibly 'tax the millionaires' enough to make any real difference in the deficit - right?

There aren't enough of them, and they, as a group, don't make enough money.

10,000 Americans have a median annual income of $50,000,000 with an average of $350,000,000 in assets which represents an increase of 550% since 1978.

"...(t)he 10,000 paid just $112Bn in taxes last year – that’s just over 20% of their income, while the rest of the country, of course, paid a much higher percentage of their income to make up for the shortfall.

"Warren Buffett, the third richest man in the world (behind Gates and Slim) paid 17.7% tax and made a point of checking and found out his employees paid an average of 32.9%.

"God bless Buffett becuase he made this point in a speech that was given to 400 of the 10,000, who were gathered at a Hillary Clinton fund raiser in 2007.

"It got a little attention at the time but then was swept under the rug – as if that didn’t matter. But it DOES MATTER and it matters a lot – the life of this country depends on it!

"If this were just a case of 10,000 people not paying $100Bn in taxes, maybe we could move on and forget it but it’s not.

"US corporations, who are (according to to the Supreme Court) also citizens of this country, paid just $300Bn in taxes last year on $6 TRILLION in income (5%). That’s right, if US corporations simply paid the same amount of tax as Mr. Buffett – that would, by itself, be enough to wipe out our deficit..."

Do you think another $100 billion in revenue every year would make any real difference in the deficit?

 

[DiamondDave]

You all realize that you cannot possibly 'tax the millionaires' enough to make any real difference in the deficit - right?

There aren't enough of them, and they, as a group, don't make enough money.

10,000 Americans have a median annual income of $50,000,000 with an average of $350,000,000 in assets which represents an increase of 550% since 1978.

"...(t)he 10,000 paid just $112Bn in taxes last year – that’s just over 20% of their income, while the rest of the country, of course, paid a much higher percentage of their income to make up for the shortfall.

"Warren Buffett, the third richest man in the world (behind Gates and Slim) paid 17.7% tax and made a point of checking and found out his employees paid an average of 32.9%.

"God bless Buffett becuase he made this point in a speech that was given to 400 of the 10,000, who were gathered at a Hillary Clinton fund raiser in 2007.

"It got a little attention at the time but then was swept under the rug – as if that didn’t matter. But it DOES MATTER and it matters a lot – the life of this country depends on it!

"If this were just a case of 10,000 people not paying $100Bn in taxes, maybe we could move on and forget it but it’s not.

"US corporations, who are (according to to the Supreme Court) also citizens of this country, paid just $300Bn in taxes last year on $6 TRILLION in income (5%). That’s right, if US corporations simply paid the same amount of tax as Mr. Buffett – that would, by itself, be enough to wipe out our deficit..."

Do you think another $100 billion in revenue every year would make any real difference in the deficit?

Why doesn't Mr. Buffett volunteer to pay more??... there is no need for government to FORCE him to do so... until the loud moth motherfucker puts his money where his mouth is in terms of taxation, I pay him no mind

 

[Rozman]

Yep, punish success. Increase the size and scope of government with nary an idea in sight to get spending under control.

Love these recycled old, demonstrably failed policies.

Let's see what the left will do with the added revenue from taxing the very rich.....

THEY WILL SPEND EVERY FRIGGIN PENNY AND THEN CRY THAT THEY WANT MORE.

 

[The T]

ehhhh.. wrong answer, asswipe

You see... many of us want the government out of marriage and want every person treated the same in terms of inheritance, taxation, power of attorney in emergencies, etc (you know, things government does have a right with its nose in) for any recognized family couple.... being against gay people being deemed 'married', forcing acceptance, etc is quite different....

Nice try

Actually no, it's not different. Merely stating "wrong answer" then spewing a line of bs right wing talking points claiming there is a difference while failing to show one is not a valid response.

The right loves the DOMA and that is nothing more than an attempt to force acceptance of their myopic view on marriage. Therefore, claiming forced acceptance as if it's a bad thing based solely on the fact that the item being accepted runs counter to your predisposed opinons is hardly a valid counter to what was said.

I am not forced to accept choices of others in this country... that is, unless it is gay marriage...

What I stated is far from BS... it is the way that equality can be preserved in government in relation to 'married' people, family couples, civil unions, or whatever else you wish to call arrangements between 2 grown adults to form a family unit

People can be asked not to discriminate against, tolerate, or whatever else... but forced to accept someone else's lifestyle choice, that is not the business of government

Not is it the business of Gubmint to foist LAW that portends to do such. It's alot like Forcing you to Buy something and claim that the Commerce Clause allows Gubmint to do it.

 

[Lasher]

Millionaires grow with the stock market.

Last year the number of millionaire households in the US increased by 600,000.

Also in 2010 the US added 5,000,000 Americans to the national food stamp program.

With the stock market soaring over 100 percent from March 2009 lows, the richest 1% of the US population now controls 42% of all financial wealth.

Don't expect to hear/read these numbers in the corporate press.

The financial scam of...

What would you do about the situation if you were able? Take away the wealthy peoples' property and give it to the poor? Be truthful.