Tactics to limit the Federal Government

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    It seems to me that the best way to reign in the Federal Government is through state elected officials. If we can get Governors and Attorney Generals of the States who believe in States rights to challenge much of the Federal Government's abuses, we would have a much stronger check on the Federal Government.

    We should still fight to get representatives in the Federal Government as well, but if we ignore the State governments we are defeating ourselves.
     
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    As part of that we should repeal the 17th amendment. The state governments would then have much more power.
     
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    You may be correct but it's not going to happen.
     
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    1) Return federally owned lands to the States

    2) Let's try this for a change

    3) Stop letting stupid people vote

    4) Get the smart people to actually vote the vermin out of office
     
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    Some are starting to:

    Tenn. Senate votes to reject health care mandate - BusinessWeek

    http://www.oag.state.tx.us/newspubs/releases/2010/021610petition_epa.pdf


     
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    I dont think they will let you stop the people in political parties from voting:p
     
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    Clarify

    How is having the senators elected by the People instead of by legislators a bad thing?
     
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    touche'
     
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    Because it eliminated a check the States had on the Federal Government.
     
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    Nullification.

    The day when several States act as one to effectively deny to the Federal Government the right to act invalidly and in contravention of the limits imposed on the Federal Government by the Constitution is the day things might start to change for the better.

    Don't get me wrong.

    I fully expect that the fubars in the Federal Government will not "take" that affont to their stolen mantle of authority lying down.

    But still, if Texas acted on the same day as Georgia and the same day as Idaho (and dare to dream, the same day as California and the same day as New York), the federal officialdom wouldn't know whether to shit or go blind.

    I would really like to see Texas kick EPA officials out of office space in Texas.

    Instead of sending in troops, you can BET that the Feds would retaliate by cutting the pipeline to the federal funding of roads etc in Texas. That's cool. Understandable even. And in retaliation for THAT, the State should stop collecting any taxes for any Federal agencies and decline to have the Feds distribute 1040 Forms to the residents of Texas. Kick the IRS officers out of offices throughout the State. Declare that the payment of Federal taxation would become a State criminal offense.... :eusa_whistle:

    And again, if the Feds dared to send in troops (which they would not), the other States could simply follow suit.

    Once the Feds got the message, all interested parties could sit down and talk it out.

    Around that time, it would be GREAT to hold a Constitutional convention again. Not many Amendments would be required to set things back to order. Repeal the 17th Amendment. Repeal the Income Tax -- and deny any other form of taxation legitmacy until the Income tax was officially outlawed. An Amendment, perhaps, reflecting what "due process" actually means, not what it has become. An Amendment clarifying that a PREAMBLE is not the same thing as an Article, and that interstate commerce means what it was intended to mean, not the nonsense it became by judicial fiat.
     
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