Syrian-ISIS Quagmire; Crisis Rooted In Ego and Failed Foreign Policy

[easyt65]

Weren't the perpetrator of 9-11-01 Saudi's?

They were Al Qaeida, the guys he helped take over Libya.

 

[Freewill]

Could one of the lovers of Saddam, the Butcher of Baghdad, please esplain to me why you think he stabilized the ME? Please?

His war with Iran?
His war with Kuwait?
His use of WMD against the Kurds?
His funding of suicide bombers?
His threats against a US president?
His sons rape rooms?
Him living in opulence while right outside his people live in poverty, kinda like Obama.

He actually did keep Iran somewhat in check. He gassed the hell out of them a few times ,and his military did well against them. I think his huge lie about having tons of WMD was a bluff designed for Iran, one that he carried too far.

Since he is gone, long gone, what has Iran been up to that he stopped?

 

[Freewill]

Could one of the lovers of Saddam, the Butcher of Baghdad, please esplain to me why you think he stabilized the ME? Please?

His war with Iran?
His war with Kuwait?
His use of WMD against the Kurds?
His funding of suicide bombers?
His threats against a US president?
His sons rape rooms?
Him living in opulence while right outside his people live in poverty, kinda like Obama.

Who took Iraq off the Terrorist list?
Who told Saddam we had no interest in Arab on Arab conflict when asked?
Iraq used gas all the while the USA and our allies were supplying him. Did we ever sanction him or did we provide excuses for him?
All Arab nation support the Palestinian fund that pays the families those who are killed in Palestine. They don't exclude SBers.
Saddam rattled his saber often.
Torture should be a crime against humanity
Ever see the slums of DC?

Turns out ISIS is worse than Saddam.

ISIS is worse then Saddam but they have nothing to do with Saddam or Iraq and their rise to power.

 

[Avatar4321]

It started...and has continued...like this:

Civil War in Syria

Assad gasses his own people

Obama steps in and issues 'Red Line'
- WHY? I thought we weren't the world's policeman, libs?! Where the hell was the U.N.?

Assad ignores Obama, uses WMD on his people again.

Obama retreats from 'Red Line', blames 'the world' for the 'Red Line', calls it THEIRS
- Exposes Obama's un-willingness to back his words
- Obama's ego never allowed him to consider Assad might actually ignore his 'edict'; once Assad did, Obama - who had no intention of going to war over this and did not think he would have to - had no idea what to do. It was THEN that he went to 'the world' to try to bolster support from others to back HIS calling-out of Assad.... NO TAKERS.

Obama seeks to make up for his Syrian/Assad Foreign Policy disaster, enters 'Proxy' War against Assad
- Obama is so determined to oust Assad that he supplies/arms/funds/trains Islamic Extremist 'rebels' that include ISIS
- Obama arms ISIS from Benghazi
- When asked about ISIS, Obama attempts to minimize them, calls them a 'JV Team'
- Since they are 'allies' against Assad and Obama is SO focused on Assad, Obama ignores ISIS move into Iraq, allows then un-opposed entry...and take-over of much of the country our military had liberated at great cost
- Obama spends US millions to train 6 (SIX) Syrian Rebels: 5 convert to ISIS, 1 is killed by Russia

Putin steps in to protect their 'loyal customer', Syria / Assad, under the 'story' that HE/Russia is taking over the fight against ISIS
- Russia builds an airbase in Syria, brings in fighters/bombers troops
- Putin initially declares 'No Fly Zone' over Syria, tells US to stay out (US was protecting Anti-Assad Rebels)
- Putin/Russia begin bombing US-supported Anti-Assad Rebels
- Iran 'joins the party' - sends in troops to Syria to fight anti-Assad 'rebels'
- Obama now in proxy war against Syria/Assad, Russia/Putin, and Iran.
- Obama eventually forced to abandon 'rebel' support...because there aren't many and being wiped out by Russia.
- Obama begins arming Kurds to fight ISIS and engages in pin-prick drone strikes

Obama orders 'no-boots-on-the-ground' boots on the ground in Iraq at / near Syrian border

Obama sets 'Rules of Engagement' in war against ISIS, forces other nations to comply
- ISIS Oil tankers and oil production facilities off limits; illegal oil industry supplies ISIS w/50% of its cash; without the cash they can not continue their 'war on Assad', and Obama wants to make sure this continues. The PROBLEM is ISIS kinda F*s Obama, uses part of that oil revenue to fund the recent attacks on Paris.
- US pilots report returning to base with 3/4 of their bombs because they can't get approval to strike ISIS targets - to include ISIS oil tankers

Post-Paris Attacks, France finally ignores Obama ROE - over 1,000 ISIS oil tankers destroyed in 3 days
- France reports ISIS oil production facilities, ISIS headquarters, and other key targets 'un-touched', begins to strike them
- Just reported Obama was giving ISIS 45-minute warning that French / allies were inbound to strike the, their oil tankers...Obama did not want to kill 'innocents'. (If you are driving trucks for terrorists who behead and burn people alive you aren't innocent)

In a relatively 'small' airspace (in and around Syria) you have MULTIPLE nations, MULTIPLE coalitions, MULTIPLE agendas, and MULTIPLE militaries, NOT all working together...you also have national borders relatively close to each other....
- Putin had declared a no-fly zone over Syria but relaxed that; allowed France - after Paris attacks - to bomb ISIS stronghold / HQ and oil Tankers in Syria...even joined in.
- Britain has asked Russia to join France in bombing critical ISIS targets ignored/protected by Obama

NOW Turkey has shot down a Russian bomber....
- This is a big deal because several days ago Russia released evidence showing that Turkey - a NATO Member - had been accepting / buying ISIS Oil, virtually helping fund ISIS activities. Bombing the ISIS tankers stops the flow of ill-gotten oil into Turkey.
- Putin accuses Turkey of deliberately shooting down their bomber and basically accuses NATO of supporting / protecting and/or being an 'ALLY' of ISIS

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Obama so 'desperate' to take down Assad he is 'in bed' with terrorists / ISIS; has been protecting ISIS targets and their ability to keep funding their operations...even after the Paris attacks AND their promise to attack the US.....fighting a proxy war with Syria...and Russia and Iran

Syria, Russia, and Iran targeting and destroying anti-Assad Rebels...fighting the proxy war against Obama - defeated Obama in that proxy war, targeting ISIS, and exposed NATO's / Turkey's 'aiding and abetting ISIS)....

Turkey and Russia about to go toe-to-toe, risking dragging NATO into the conflict
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...and ALL THIS HUGE CLUSTERFARK STARTED BY OBAMA STICKING HIS NOS OINTO SYRIA'S CIVIL WAR, ISSUING HIS 'RED LINE', COWARDLY BACKING AWAY FROM IT, AND NOW BEING OBSESSED WITH REDEEMING HIMSELF BY OUSTING ASSAD....

Obama's RED LINE resulted in:
- Gun running to ISIS in Benghazi, resulting in 4 Americans dead, to include Ambassador Stevens
- Rise of ISIS in Syria...spreading globally
- Un-Opposed ISIS invasion of Iraq
- THOUSANDS of men, women, & children slaughtered by ISIS in Iraq
- Allied pilot being burned alive by ISIS
- Syrian-Russian-Iran alliance
- Failed attempt to wage a proxy war by Obama
- Millions wasted on supplying, arming, and training 5 new ISIS recruits
- Paris attacks, funded by ISIS oil program that was protected by Obama
- This huge multi-national 'clusterfark' of conflicting interests, agendas, military goals, and conflict centered on Syria

Link: Putin: Downing Of Jet A 'Stab In The Back'
LINK: Washington Post: Obama to Blame for Syrian Catastrophe
LINK: Links between Turkey and ISIS are now 'undeniable' - Business Insider
LINK: White House Gave ISIS 45 Minute Warning Before Bombing Oil Tankers
LINK: US military pilots complain hands tied in ‘frustrating’ fight against ISIS | Fox News
LINK: Watch: Dem Reveals Startling Connection Between Obama And Islamic Extremists - He WON'T Want This Out There

You haven't gotten the memo. It's Bush's fault

 

[paulitician]

Our 'Friends' killing Russian pilots in their parachutes...

 

[BlindBoo]

Weren't the perpetrator of 9-11-01 Saudi's?

They were Al Qaeida, the guys he helped take over Libya.

Did their money come from Libya?

 

[easyt65]

Did their money come from Libya?

Al Qaeida killed Americans on 9/11/01....and Obama helped them take over Libya... and you only care where Al Qaeida's money came from and are not interested in the fact that Obama helped Al Qaeida?!

That's called 'treason', bro, and it was funded by YOURS and MY MONEY!

 

[BlindBoo]

Did their money come from Libya?

Al Qaeida killed Americans on 9/11/01....and Obama helped them take over Libya... and you only care where Al Qaeida's money came from and are not interested in the fact that Obama helped Al Qaeida?!

That's called 'treason', bro, and it was funded by YOURS and MY MONEY!

Any Radical Islamic terrorist group can hang sign up and call themselves al Qaeda. Yes I care who funded the terrorist who struck New York and DC in 2001. You want to turn the US's role in the overthrow of Qaddafi in to aid for al Qaeda because you think that will hurt the President and the Democrats. I'm on record here, somewhere, as opposed to intervention in Libya. It's not treason brother.

 

[easyt65]

Any Radical Islamic terrorist group can hang sign up and call themselves al Qaeda.

Well Obama helped the Radical Islamic terrorist group that hung up a sign and called themselves Al Qaeida in Libya to take over Libya, without Congressional approval to do so....then he HIRED them to protect a now-DEAD US Ambassador.

 

[Moonglow]

5 pages of arm chair strategist...Man is that credible or what?

 

[easyt65]

5 pages of arm chair strategist...Man is that credible or what?

...couldn't resist jumpin' in, huh?

 

[Moonglow]

5 pages of arm chair strategist...Man is that credible or what?

...couldn't resist jumpin' in, huh?

Sure, since it's the loony bins day out on field trips to the library to use computers to post...

 

[easyt65]

5 pages of arm chair strategist...Man is that credible or what?

...couldn't resist jumpin' in, huh?

Sure, since it's the loony bins day out on field trips to the library to use computers to post...

...shouldn't you rejoin your group now? It's about time to get back on the short bus.

(I'M JUST KIDDING...NO OFFENSE, I SWEAR....IF JUST SEEMED LIKE A FUNNY RESPONSE!)