Discussion in 'Politics' started by Lakhota, Nov 9, 2012.
More: Voters Reject Medicare Cuts Flat Out, Prefer Tax Hikes To Reduce Deficit: Survey
I totally agree! This is the most logical and sane approach.
Proving that a majority of voters are so damn stupid they probably shouldn't be voting.
Someone should tell them now that the election is safely over that Obama gutted 716 billion dollars from Medicare to hide the price of Obamacare. Good luck finding a doctor seniors. Doctor's want to get paid.
Republicans like to talk about America becoming Greece. They should certainly be concerned. For the past 5 years Greece and other European countries have been pursuing the Republican's agenda for "growth", by savagely cutting social programs and gutting the government sector. The result has been an unimaginable economic depression, much worse than anything seen this side of the Atlantic.
Of course voters don't want any of it to be on the table. This is why Republicans must engage in doublethink. They must simultaneously pretend to be protectors of programs like Medicare and social security (like Vel's post above) while also denouncing how government cannot and should not do anything and very openly saying the programs must be dismantled - dismantled to be saved, because 'we cannot afford them.'
Vel ain't too bright...
One of the biggest problems in trying to deal with SS and Medicare is that nobody is willing to sacrifice. That is why I believe the easiest and most logical answer is to raise the retirement age. At some point, everyone is going to have to be honest and deal with this.
I have to agree. However, at present there is a problem to be overcome. It's one thing if the older workers are at desks or work-at-home jobs, but too many are in blue-collar labor jobs - it's too strenuous for them.
Voters are not stupid enough to believe we should cut programs for the poor and elderly while giving tax cuts to the rich, double the military, trillions to Israel(which has government healthcare and generous retirement) while letting big multinational corporations(who pay no taxes) ship American jobs overseas.
Social Security has been tuned and tweaked several times over the years to keep it solvent for new generations, and it will likely need the same many times in the future. It just needs to be done reasonably without the GOP scare tactics.
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