SUCCESS in Iraq--US troops to pull back--Iraqi's in charge!

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    At the end of another perfectly pronounced speech given by Barack Obama today he "quietly" & "meekly" mentioned that all U.S. troops have been ordered to move out of the provinces & towns in Iraq to the outskirts. Iraqi's had a parade today--in celebration that Iraqi troops will be in full charge of the country--& will only call in U.S. troops if & when they need help.

    Of course, you probably remember it was Barack Obama that was adamantely opposed to the surge & campaigned on the failure of the surge as recently as one year ago--in his cut & run strategy & promises of immediate withdrawel of 1-1/2 years ago.:cuckoo:



    Now it appears that Obama is going to send Biden to Iraq for reconciliation between the 3 groups--Sunni's--Shiete's--& Kurds. Of course, you probably remember that it was Biden that wanted to divide the country into 3 sections. With Biden's open mouth--insert foot--wouldn't it be kind of dangerous to send Biden to Iraq in the first place?

    Your opinions?

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    President Obama is giving Vice President Biden a larger portfolio to handle, asking him to oversee reconciliation inside Iraq, but Biden will not be a mediator between factions.

    "I think he will be involved in working with Shia, Sunni and Kurd to achieve political reconciliation. I would hesitate to use the term 'mediator.' "Gibbs said. "I think, given his knowledge of the region, the number of times he's been there, he's perfectly suited for this type of role."

    Biden was the chair of the Senate Foreign Relations committee before being chosen by Obama to be his running mate. While in the Senate, Biden authored a paper advocating a three-way split of Iraq in order to advance reconciliation in the country. While Gibbs said Biden's extensive knowledge of Iraq makes him a perfect choice for the position, he said the idea of partition is no longer a live debate within the administration, noting it's completely gone from the language within the White House.

    http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com...-not-mediate-in-iraq-but-he-will-have-a-role/
     
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    oh man
    the wolves are running the hen house
     
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    And the Obama media networks is crapping their pants--they do not know how to handle this news--he.he.he.--so they'll try & put a bad spin on it---because the very last thing they will EVER do is give President G.W. Bush credit for being stong enough to go against popular public opinion & the left in this country--who stood strong & insisted on the surge--& stuck with it.
     
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    Bush was against the surge at first
    he had to be convinced to do it by the joint chiefs and several GOP Senators
     
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    Indeed... And the need FOR the surge was a direct result of the PC minded 'kinder/gentler' war... wherein GW sought to appease the ideological left IN THE FIRST PLACE, which provided that US operations in Iraq would go on the defensive; stand down from taking and holding ground and instead, take ground and readily depart, so as to prevent US Troops from being seen as "OCCUPIERS"... returning to theoir cloistered bases; leaving that ground; those villages and towns to be readily taken BACK by the would-be "INSURGENTS"...

    Had GW simply ignored the left, stood on the sound principle on which he entered the war; fought the war to WIN it and maintained the occupation of that ground which was secured; there would have been no 'insurgency' to put down...

    Yet ANOTHER example of leftist policy having FAILED and principled policy having replaced it and SUCCEEDED...

    Now of course the BOY King comes to take the credit for that which he oppossed at EVERY POINT.

    It's just a lie... that's all... just another deception by the feminzied left and their principle-less ideology.
     
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    Good, can we leave now?
     
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    Hell yes...

    I say we withdraw US troops from ALL engagements until we can re-establish American control of the US Government.

    Having US troops in the field under leftist government control only gets US troops killed, while we appease our enemy and no good has ever come from that.
     
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    While the long term implications of the Iraq War may actually prove to be of benefit, the overall cost was too much. Hopefully the lesson learned will be that we cannot afford financially to police every last region of this planet.
     
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    THe price for freedom is never too high.

    The price for failure to keep it is always too high

    We WON in Vietnam, but the peaceniks and the press that made the whole thing so un palatable and the spineless liberals refused to live up to our promise to the South Vietnamese to provide backup if the North again tried invading after THE NORTH SIGNED THE TREATY to end hostilites, but because our gutless spineless liberals and media refused to support the South when the North tested us after we had defeated them, THEN< and ONLY THEN, did the cost of Vietnam become too high.

    Misconceptions about Vietnam "war" and its vets are staggering and still perpetuated by the liberal left media.

    If one actually cared to take the time to find out the FACTS
     
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    THe price for freedom is never too high.

    The price for failure to keep it is always too high

    We WON in Vietnam, but the peaceniks and the press that made the whole thing so un palatable and the spineless liberals refused to live up to our promise to the South Vietnamese to provide backup if the North again tried invading after THE NORTH SIGNED THE TREATY to end hostilites, but because our gutless spineless liberals and media refused to support the South when the North tested us after we had defeated them, THEN< and ONLY THEN, did the cost of Vietnam become too high.

    Misconceptions about Vietnam "war" and its vets are staggering and still perpetuated by the liberal left media.

    If one actually cared to take the time to find out the FACTS about Vietnam and the soldiers who so bravely served there, you would find out virtually everything anyone thinks about it is wrong.

    Lets start with the ratio of volunteers to draftees in Vietnam was higher than WW II. Yet anyone you would meet on the street would never guess or know that, and everyone thinks virtually everyone who served in vietnam was drafted.
     

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