mamooth
Diamond Member
That case involves an Oregon Court and Oregon Law.
Thread's over. Eagle has decided states' right should _not_ apply.
Thread's over. Eagle has decided states' right should _not_ apply.
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That was decided by 5 people in Black Robes.................That case involves an Oregon Court and Oregon Law.
Thread's over. Eagle has decided states' right should _not_ apply.
In the wake of the recent Supreme Court decision regarding same-sex marriage, a lot of discussion has gone on over whether the Federal Government is tyrannically oppressing "state's rights".
Aside from the root issue that almost every mention of "state's rights" is referring to states having the right to discriminate against it's own citizens, I wonder why people with such dislike and distrust of the federal government seem to have no problems with state government overreach.
Why is one government telling you what to do better than the other?
oh brother. the people in California voted down Homosexual marriage and you all had black robe justices step and OVERTURN their rights to vote on it in their own state. so you might like being RULED over but that isn't how our country used to work. now it's just mob rules
In the wake of the recent Supreme Court decision regarding same-sex marriage, a lot of discussion has gone on over whether the Federal Government is tyrannically oppressing "state's rights".
Aside from the root issue that almost every mention of "state's rights" is referring to states having the right to discriminate against it's own citizens, I wonder why people with such dislike and distrust of the federal government seem to have no problems with state government overreach.
Why is one government telling you what to do better than the other?
state government overreach
What does that even mean?
it means that states can't make unconstitutional laws...The 10th amendment has that oft overlooked stipulation.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."
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The United States Constitution has secured an unprecedented degree of human freedom, upholding the rule of law, securing the blessings of liberty, and providing the framework for the people of America to build a great, prosperous, and just nation unlike any other in the world.
George Washington thought that it was “little short of a miracle” that the delegates could agree on the Constitution. Americans had stumbled on this road before. The United States had established an earlier constitution in 1781, the Articles of Confederation. Under the Articles, each state governed itself through elected representatives, and the state representatives in turn elected a weak central government, one so feeble that it was unworkable. This league of states, hastily crafted during wartime, had to be replaced with a real government.
The challenge was devising stable institutional arrangements that would reconcile majority rule and minority rights, that is, reflect the consent of the governed but avoid majority tyranny. The new constitution would need to secure the rights promised in the Declaration of Independence and do so through a republican form of government. The founders responded with a written Constitution that created a strong government of limited powers, with the then-novel institutions of the separation of powers and federalism.
The Constitution of the United States
No, it was that states could not define marriage, only regulate what was defined marriage. That has been settled for our lifetimes.The very issue was whether states have the power to set terms in marriage.
Government officials in Montana, for example, are in tune to the needs and wants of Montanans regarding government of themselves..
Its why the Constitution said that powers not specifically given to the Federal Government are reserved to the States.
Fuck the Federal Government.