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Four year colleges were not designed for everyone. It is for the exceptional students but our PC culture is going out of control.
As part of the American's with Disabilities Act, our university does offer a Counseling Center that can accommodate all kinds of disabilities. In fact, we have to take into account certain disabilities when we select online homework programs these days.
Some of these I have no issue with. For example, a seeing impaired student will need a note taker. Not an issue. I've had students with crippling arthritis that I provided notes to. Some students need a quiet testing environment or extended time. Also not a problem.
As of yet, I have not had to water down the curriculum for any of the courses I teach or supervise. I have to accommodate the students with special needs, but any student taking my class an obtaining a passing grade does so after meeting the same course objectives as any other student in the course.
Four year colleges were not designed for everyone. It is for the exceptional students but our PC culture is going out of control.
Anyone with a disability should have acquired skills to overcome or cope with their special situations while in high school. We are not giving them any chances if we take away the accepted standards and give them grades they didn't deserve.
Thomas Edison had dyslexia. He coped with the malfunction and was a brilliant man overcoming his difficulties to perform beyond the norm. That's what we have to do. Give them ways to overcome their difficulties and aspiring for greater heighths than are currently done. We don't do that with watering down curricula.
Four year colleges were not designed for everyone. It is for the exceptional students but our PC culture is going out of control.
Anyone with a disability should have acquired skills to overcome or cope with their special situations while in high school. We are not giving them any chances if we take away the accepted standards and give them grades they didn't deserve.
Thomas Edison had dyslexia. He coped with the malfunction and was a brilliant man overcoming his difficulties to perform beyond the norm. That's what we have to do. Give them ways to overcome their difficulties and aspiring for greater heighths than are currently done. We don't do that with watering down curricula.
4 year graduation is....exceptional?
when did it become 'exceptional'?
All students, by law, take the same tests and quizzes, do the same homework, have the same grade expectations, and must meet the same learning objectives.As part of the American's with Disabilities Act, our university does offer a Counseling Center that can accommodate all kinds of disabilities. In fact, we have to take into account certain disabilities when we select online homework programs these days.
Some of these I have no issue with. For example, a seeing impaired student will need a note taker. Not an issue. I've had students with crippling arthritis that I provided notes to. Some students need a quiet testing environment or extended time. Also not a problem.
As of yet, I have not had to water down the curriculum for any of the courses I teach or supervise. I have to accommodate the students with special needs, but any student taking my class an obtaining a passing grade does so after meeting the same course objectives as any other student in the course.
this sounds inconsistent....
Some students need a quiet testing environment or extended time
then...
As of yet, I have not had to water down the curriculum for any of the courses I teach or supervise.
It's a different issue, but a student who can get a degree in 4 years IS exceptional now. Students have been inching towards an average of 4.5+ to get a Bachelor's for years.Four year colleges were not designed for everyone. It is for the exceptional students but our PC culture is going out of control.
Anyone with a disability should have acquired skills to overcome or cope with their special situations while in high school. We are not giving them any chances if we take away the accepted standards and give them grades they didn't deserve.
Thomas Edison had dyslexia. He coped with the malfunction and was a brilliant man overcoming his difficulties to perform beyond the norm. That's what we have to do. Give them ways to overcome their difficulties and aspiring for greater heighths than are currently done. We don't do that with watering down curricula.
4 year graduation is....exceptional?
when did it become 'exceptional'?
It's a different issue, but a student who can get a degree in 4 years IS exceptional now. Students have been inching towards an average of 4.5+ to get a Bachelor's for years..Four year colleges were not designed for everyone. It is for the exceptional students but our PC culture is going out of control.
Anyone with a disability should have acquired skills to overcome or cope with their special situations while in high school. We are not giving them any chances if we take away the accepted standards and give them grades they didn't deserve.
Thomas Edison had dyslexia. He coped with the malfunction and was a brilliant man overcoming his difficulties to perform beyond the norm. That's what we have to do. Give them ways to overcome their difficulties and aspiring for greater heighths than are currently done. We don't do that with watering down curricula.
4 year graduation is....exceptional?
when did it become 'exceptional'?
It's a different issue, but a student who can get a degree in 4 years IS exceptional now. Students have been inching towards an average of 4.5+ to get a Bachelor's for years..4 year graduation is....exceptional?
when did it become 'exceptional'?
Got a link to some stats backing this up?
What I'm reading in this thread seems to sum up what has happened to the state of public education in this country. It's no wonder we have fallen in ranking significantly over the past 50 years.
Bingo.
People complain about education in America and how we have fallen behind and ranked 30-something and something must be done. Some people throw around the phrase "education reform," but really, what does that mean? They don't know, it just sounds good. Another "answer" is to throw a bunch of money at the problem.
The reality is that this country has kids in school with more brains in an average exhalation than the average DC politician. Lots of smart kids are wait-listed or denied all together from all universities. Med schools, as well as law and engineering schools have more than enough qualified applicants. So what is the problem?
The question is actually plural but part of the reason for the decline in the USA education ranking is what this thread addresses. We have HS students with IEPs mixed with other students. This slows the progress of the group and sometimes causes the teacher to dilute the material. We have HS students that can hardly read and/or write English. A lot of the parents that demanded that the grading scale be changed to a 10 point scale in one of my previous posts were from ESOL kids. My principal has required that if a class has only one 9th or 10th grader, the teacher must teach and test with Middle Years IB Program (MYIBP) methods, regardless of whether or not any of the students are enrolled in the MYIBP. Why?, you ask! So that all students can be exposed to advanced teaching and testing methods. That of course sounds good on its face, but the problem comes from diluting the process with a group of students that are primarily main stream students.
Those are just a few things that have lowered the American education rankings. There are remedies that does not have to approach seperate but equal or Brown vs. BOE and whatnot. Students should be grouped according to their abilities. I firmly believe that certain kids should not have to go to school beyond the 10th grade. Their education plan should include some sort of trade combined with life and business skills. Do you know how much a plumber makes? We have really smart kids that graduate high school that cannot write a resume or balance a check book. Not every kid needs to go to college. We need to take a hard look at standardized testing and administrative burdens that are put in place in the name of improving education. Every year one or two new requirements pop up that does nothing to educate kids but it placates the board and the parents and keeps people busy until June. The only thing I will say about teachers is that my colleagues are some of the hardest working and caring people that I have had the honor of being associated with, and that includes 26 years in Navy medicine.
I have ranted enough. I have 30 of my 175 students arriving soon. We are on a two hour early release today. woop... woop
Yup, they have been doing this for years.
It is a disservice to those who have those special needs. I give an exam an I have to allow them twice or three times the rest of the students have. And, when these special needs students graduate, and when they don't meet a deadline at work?
Pardon me? Huh?Yup, they have been doing this for years.
It is a disservice to those who have those special needs. I give an exam an I have to allow them twice or three times the rest of the students have. And, when these special needs students graduate, and when they don't meet a deadline at work?
I teach sped in the adjacent division to your west
Pardon me? Huh?Yup, they have been doing this for years.
It is a disservice to those who have those special needs. I give an exam an I have to allow them twice or three times the rest of the students have. And, when these special needs students graduate, and when they don't meet a deadline at work?
I teach sped in the adjacent division to your west
Yes, I am.Pardon me? Huh?I teach sped in the adjacent division to your west
you are in Fairfax county, right?
that's a great post ^