Discussion in 'History' started by SobieskiSavedEurope, Sep 8, 2018.
as well as Finland, Estonia , Latvia , etc.
If you are looking for an apology for the carnage that happened in Russia you aren't going to get it. The "west" in the 30's belonged to the FDR administration and it seems that Stalin became a personal friend of FDR who called him "uncle Joe".
I certainly don't care about Jews, they could've assimilated after 800 years of living in Polish society.
As for Ukrainians, they had proven to be a threat in Wolyn Massacre.
Was Stalin a murdering asshole...............YUP...............
Did he kill anyone, including friends, who were a threat to his power............YUP
Was the rest of the world ready to go and fight Russia over it, during a depression..............NOPE.......
And in regards to fighting with them as Allies......The enemy of my enemy is my friend........YUP
what should they have done??
According to Fox noise only in the world, super duper. Paris is just fine thanks also LOL!
We also didn't really know what was going on in the USSR under Stalin. Stupid thread.
no free press
...I've been reading Bloodlands:Europe Between Hitler and Stalin just these past few weeks--this book is on the exact title of the thread
...one of the sections tells of how hitler had to be more ''secretive'' in his killings because of ''more journalists/press'' in Germany
...where Stalin did not have to really worry about it
How could they not know?
Obviously some Ukrainians who were being brutalized must've told their stories in the West as they fled.
Stalin/etc countered with propaganda/lies/etc
it's exactly like today's news---they could say/publish/etc all kinds of lies and bullshit
...only back then, there wasn't instant communication/iphones/security cameras/etc = much easier to tell lies and get away with it
...also, like in many conflicts/wars/killings/etc, one side says the other side is wrong/started it/etc---''the other side is the bad guys--not us''
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