Solyndra Debacle What did Obama know and when did he know it?

[Foxfyre]

I corrected a bit of awkward syntax after your post Mr T, but did not change the meaning or intent of the OP in any way.

But the intent of the thread is basically to point out those things that we probably aren't getting the truth or those things for which we really have to dig for the truth.

On Solyndra, Jon Stewart came up with another good one. Funny yes. Putting the best face on it? Yes. But getting the nitty gritty in there? He did that too:

Jon Stewart Tackles Solyndra - HUMAN EVENTS

 

[Truthmatters]

what crimes have been charged over this issue?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Last May, President Obama gave a one of his 'feel good' speeches at the Solyndra plant that made solar panels in California and gave it high praises: "It's clear that Solyndra is leading the way the a brighter and more prosperous future."-Barack Obama, May 26, 2010
Pr. Obama at Solyndra (1) California Solar Plant - YouTube

And something over a half billion ($535 million?) in loan guarantees out of the stimulus money went to Solyndra who just incidentally was a major supporter of Obama's campaign and the DNC.

Shareholders and executives of Solyndra, a green energy company producing solar panels, fundraised for and donated to the Obama administration to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Tulsa billionaire George Kaiser, a key Obama backer who raised between $50,000 and $100,000 for the president’s election campaign, is one of Solyndra’s primary investors. Kaiser himself donated $53,500 to Obama’s 2008 election campaign, split between the DSCC and Obama For America. Kaiser also made several visits to the White House and appeared at some White House events next to Obama officials.
Read more: Bankrupt Solar Company | Obama Administration | Campaign Donations | The Daily Caller

And then WAPO broke the story that e-mails show that last September, the Administration was rushing the money to Solyndra before allowing appropriate authorities verify and check out whether the loan guarantee (that the taxpayers are now stuck for) met mandatory federal guidelines. So Solyndra got their unsecured and non checkout out loan just before Joe Biden went on television to announce that this would create a 1000 permanent jobs in a green industry.
Solyndra Scandal Deepens, Hands Issue to Republicans - Yahoo! News

And we also now know via NBC and others that some were alerting the administration months ago that Solyndra was not selling any panels or was selling them below cost and they would be out of money by September 2011.

Solyndra filed for bankruptcy last week.
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I would like to devote this thread to a discussion, civil if at all possible, of Solyndra and all the deals, legislation, policy, and programs, enacted or proposed, that do not meet the smell test for being above board, honestly presented, reasonable or competent.

I realize I am at risk of being reported to AttackWatch here.

Rumor is, when Solyndra closed its doors permanently, the last folks to leave were Tareq and Michelle Salahi.

 

[WillowTree]

this will lead to impeachment. this and the fast and furious debacle.

 

[Oldstyle]

I corrected a bit of awkward syntax after your post Mr T, but did not change the meaning or intent of the OP in any way.

But the intent of the thread is basically to point out those things that we probably aren't getting the truth or those things for which we really have to dig for the truth.

On Solyndra, Jon Stewart came up with another good one. Funny yes. Putting the best face on it? Yes. But getting the nitty gritty in there? He did that too:

Jon Stewart Tackles Solyndra - HUMAN EVENTS

I remember reading an article in the Wall Street Journal two years ago cautioning investors from jumping on the "green" bandwagon and investing in companies like Solyndra because they were going to have to compete globally with Chinese products that were much cheaper. The author of that article was saying that the numbers simply didn't work. He was obviously spot on with that analysis.

 

[The T]

Who was the blithering fucking idiot who approved bail out money for this dumb ass solar company ?

Fremont, CA, March 20, 2009 – Solyndra, Inc. announced today that it is the first company to receive an offer for a U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) loan guarantee under Title XVII of the Energy Policy Act of 2005. Solyndra, a Fremont, California-based manufacturer of innovative cylindrical photovoltaic systems, will use the proceeds of a $535 million loan from the U.S. Treasury’s Federal Financing Bank to expand its solar panel manufacturing capacity in California.

“The leadership and actions of President Barack Obama, Energy Secretary Steven Chu and the U.S. Congress were instrumental in concluding this offer for a loan guarantee,” said Solyndra CEO and founder, Dr. Chris Gronet. “The DOE Loan Guarantee Program funding will enable Solyndra to achieve the economies of scale needed to deliver solar electricity at prices that are competitive with utility rates. This expansion is really about creating new jobs while meaningfully impacting global warming.”

LINK

 

[Foxfyre]

Rumor is, when Solyndra closed its doors permanently, the last folks to leave were Tareq and Michelle Salahi.

 

[Truthmatters]

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Gerald Walpin

Ex-AmeriCorps IG Gerald Walpin Loses Appeal In Wrongful Firing Suit

Rachel Slajda | January 5, 2011, 1:54PM



Gerald Walpin


Gerald Walpin, the former inspector general of the department overseeing AmeriCorps, lost an appeal in his lawsuit claiming that he was wrongfully fired by the Obama administration in June 2009.

A federal appeals court ruled against Walpin yesterday, writing in the panel's unanimous decision that Walpin does not have a "clear and indisputable right" to his old job.

Walpin's accusations of wrongdoing by the Obama administration quickly became a cause on the right. Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), who's about to become chair of the House Oversight Committee, opened an official Congressional inquiry into the firing with Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA). Their report, however, didn't find any evidence of actual wrongdoing.

 

[boedicca]

It's not the crime...it's the cover up.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

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Gerald Walpin

Ex-AmeriCorps IG Gerald Walpin Loses Appeal In Wrongful Firing Suit

Rachel Slajda | January 5, 2011, 1:54PM



Gerald Walpin


Gerald Walpin, the former inspector general of the department overseeing AmeriCorps, lost an appeal in his lawsuit claiming that he was wrongfully fired by the Obama administration in June 2009.

A federal appeals court ruled against Walpin yesterday, writing in the panel's unanimous decision that Walpin does not have a "clear and indisputable right" to his old job.

Walpin's accusations of wrongdoing by the Obama administration quickly became a cause on the right. Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), who's about to become chair of the House Oversight Committee, opened an official Congressional inquiry into the firing with Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA). Their report, however, didn't find any evidence of actual wrongdoing.

WTF does this have to do with anything?

 

[Truthmatters]

its not for you so forget about it

 

[Truthmatters]

when someone is charged with a crime in this one then it will matter.

Unlike under Bush there is now oversite in this country.

 

[Conservative]

when someone is charged with a crime in this one then it will matter.

Unlike under Bush there is now oversite in this country.

Why do you repeatedly refuse to answer yes or no questions?

What are you afraid of?

Was the poll I cited in the other thread valid, or not???

Yes

or


No

 

[The T]

Gerald Walpin | TPMMuckraker


Gerald Walpin

Ex-AmeriCorps IG Gerald Walpin Loses Appeal In Wrongful Firing Suit

Rachel Slajda | January 5, 2011, 1:54PM



Gerald Walpin


Gerald Walpin, the former inspector general of the department overseeing AmeriCorps, lost an appeal in his lawsuit claiming that he was wrongfully fired by the Obama administration in June 2009.

A federal appeals court ruled against Walpin yesterday, writing in the panel's unanimous decision that Walpin does not have a "clear and indisputable right" to his old job.

Walpin's accusations of wrongdoing by the Obama administration quickly became a cause on the right. Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), who's about to become chair of the House Oversight Committee, opened an official Congressional inquiry into the firing with Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA). Their report, however, didn't find any evidence of actual wrongdoing.

WTF does this have to do with anything?

Certainly an attempt to derail the topic.

 

[Conservative]

its not for you so forget about it

Why do you repeatedly refuse to answer yes or no questions?

What are you afraid of?

Was the poll I cited in the other thread valid, or not???

Yes

or


No

 

[boedicca]

Obama admin ignored warnings about Solyndra:

White House officials discussed the political ramifications of a possible default by a troubled solar energy company that received more than $500 million in federal loans, newly released emails show.

Emails released Thursday night show that Obama administration privately worried about the effect of a default by Solyndra Inc. on the president's re-election campaign.

"The optics of a Solyndra default will be bad," an official from the Office of Management and Budget wrote in a Jan. 31 email to a senior OMB official. "The timing will likely coincide with the 2012 campaign season heating up."

Obama admin ignored warnings about Solyndra - Yahoo! News


You know a scandal has legs when even AP-Yahoo news is reporting it.

 

[The T]

its not for you so forget about it

Why do you repeatedly refuse to answer yes or no questions?

What are you afraid of?

Was the poll I cited in the other thread valid, or not???

Yes

or


No

Statists have this need to be accepted regardless of the truth. They wring thier hands over not being liked by thier chosen peer group.

 

[Truthmatters]

dudes this aint your golden ticket.

Its a mess for sure but not the BIG Obama killer you are trying to pretend it is.

Parrys land deals are far more impressive for corruption.

This is still being investigated and it really doesnt look like what you people want to claim is some huge scandal.

They turned over all the related emails right when asked.

No Bush like delay for years and years.

There is not going to be much there there or they would have fought to hide it.

How's this one:

1. The case of Sacramento’s Democrat Mayor Kevin Johnson. An unfortunate government watchdog made the mistake of looking too closely at his misuse of government funds…and suddenly found himself out of a job. Since inspectors general are supposed to be independent, ‘else how do they conduct investigations into federal agencies? In fact, Congress passed the Inspectors General Reform Act of 2008. (Public Law 110-409 : “To amend the Inspector General Act of 1978 to enhance the independence of the Inspectors General, to create a Council of the Inspectors General on Integrity and Efficiency, and for other purposes.”) Barack Obama was a co-sponsor.

2. Gerald Walpin was the inspector general who oversaw the AmeriCorps program, and he discovered evidence that Democrat Mayor Kevin Johnson had misused $850,000 of the AmeriCorps grant money and ‘used federally-funded AmeriCorps staff for, among other things, "driving [Johnson] to personal appointments, washing his car, and running personal errands." ‘Gerald Walpin speaks: The inside story of the AmeriCorps firing | Byron York | Beltway Confidential | Washington Examiner

a. BTW, did I mention that Kevin Johnson stated that he was ‘a personal friend of President Obama?

3. Walpin referrer the matter for criminal prosecution to the US Attorney for the Eastern District of California, Lawrence Brown. Brown, who had taken over from a Bush appointee, instead entered into settlement talks with Johnson, and on terms very favorable to Johnson. Walpin objected. Ibid.

a. On June 10, 2009, Walpin was given two options: resign immediately or be terminated.

It that "the BIG Obama killer"?

No...?

What a surprise.

a clue

 

[PoliticalChic]

Gerald Walpin | TPMMuckraker


Gerald Walpin

Ex-AmeriCorps IG Gerald Walpin Loses Appeal In Wrongful Firing Suit

Rachel Slajda | January 5, 2011, 1:54PM



Gerald Walpin


Gerald Walpin, the former inspector general of the department overseeing AmeriCorps, lost an appeal in his lawsuit claiming that he was wrongfully fired by the Obama administration in June 2009.

A federal appeals court ruled against Walpin yesterday, writing in the panel's unanimous decision that Walpin does not have a "clear and indisputable right" to his old job.

Walpin's accusations of wrongdoing by the Obama administration quickly became a cause on the right. Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), who's about to become chair of the House Oversight Committee, opened an official Congressional inquiry into the firing with Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA). Their report, however, didn't find any evidence of actual wrongdoing.

He was fired for refusing to look the other way when a connected pol misused nearly $1 million dollars....

Is this the vaunted 'Hope and Change'?

Let's be honest, Ms. Truthie....and admit that this President is hardly more than any other Chicago thug pol with oratorial skills.

Don't you agree?

 

[Truthmatters]

Gerald Walpin | TPMMuckraker


Gerald Walpin

Ex-AmeriCorps IG Gerald Walpin Loses Appeal In Wrongful Firing Suit

Rachel Slajda | January 5, 2011, 1:54PM



Gerald Walpin


Gerald Walpin, the former inspector general of the department overseeing AmeriCorps, lost an appeal in his lawsuit claiming that he was wrongfully fired by the Obama administration in June 2009.

A federal appeals court ruled against Walpin yesterday, writing in the panel's unanimous decision that Walpin does not have a "clear and indisputable right" to his old job.

Walpin's accusations of wrongdoing by the Obama administration quickly became a cause on the right. Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), who's about to become chair of the House Oversight Committee, opened an official Congressional inquiry into the firing with Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA). Their report, however, didn't find any evidence of actual wrongdoing.

another clue