Socialism... A rationalization of escape.

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    Capitalism is the natural order of economics...

    Socialism, which is communism at an early stage of development... is a function of secularism, and the unbridled arrogance of the Social Scientists that they've some means to control the Economy...

    It's the same arrogance which allows them to believe that they can control the environment.

    When the left has finally pissed the world off and the inevitable spasm comes which destroys them; what will rise from tha ashes of that extinction will be Capitalism... Defined as the free exchange of the goods and services to the mutual benefit of both parties; capitalism is simply how people trade the value which they possess for the value which they desire, want or need... and it works every time that it is tried...

    What I love about the advocates of 'mixed economies' is how they clammer on about how corruption is inherent in capitalism; so they demand that 'just enough Socialism is necessary to keep capitalism in check...' when the socialism is being advanced by the same beings which could not manage to honestly exchange fair value for fair value... So their SOLUTUION is to give those same CORRUPTIBLE PEOPLE MORE POWER... through which their unbridled arrogance will corrupt far more deeply, and in ways which are far more destructive...

    Socialism is a lie... it's not an economic system of any kind... it's a ideology... which uses economics as a means to its decietful end.

    Socialism is merely a rationalization where the individual is said to be incapable of maintaining their responsibilities, so those responsibilities are placed upon the State. What the advocates of Social Science fail to recognize is that liberty, FREEDOM, is directly attributable TO THE RESPONSIBILITY RESTING WITH THE INDIVIDUAL and that/those individual holding himself and his neighbor accountable to those responsibilties. The responsibility to fairly trade with their neighbor, is an intrinsic, inseparable element of their human RIGHT... where that responsibility is forfeited, the right is forfeited and with that right goes FREEDOM.

    The solution is not to succumb the the weakness which seeks to rest one's burdeon of responsibility upon the ethereal myth of "The People"... as such will never be the option of the freeman to look back upon... the solution is to hold one's self and each other accountable; and to do so through, in the case of the United States, the Constitutional Republic which was designed to DO JUST THAT. The Constitution that was designed to LIMIT the scope of Government power and to protect the rights of the individual and to HOLD EACH ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS in maintaining their responsibility to not infringe upon the rights of another, in the process of exercising their rights.

    Socialism... the Advocacy of Social Science is not a viable economic theory... Communism is not a viable theory of cultural cooperation... They're one in the same rationalization, where each individual advocate wants to separate the THEMSELVES from their RESPONSIBILITIES... and this I suspect in yet another human attempt to 'have their cake and eat it too...' Left-think is little more than a means to find an 'easier way'... than the day to day struggle, the burden common in each one of us, to do the right thing...

    The worst part; and I do mean the worst... is that the liberty born from the US Constitution; the individual liberty to freely exchange the goods and services to the mutual benefit of both parties... the freedom to choose our own path, to set out own course... which we enjoy today, despite its many imperfections; THIS IS AS EASY AS IT GETS

    The socialists living amongst us are determined to dream us back into bondage... where inevitably, should we fail to stop them, the generations which follow us will wonder how lame we had to be, to freely give up our freedom, on the hope that we could separate our freedom from our simple responsibility to do the right thing.
     
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    Seeing this the first time in its condensed form was bad enough.
     
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    Awesome post, PI.
     
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    Ahh... needless to say, the return of Ag-whats-her-name, doesn't bode well for the health of one Live Uninhibited.

    It's good to see that you've learned your place Ag... It shows a wisdom born of experience that you've opted to wholly avoid the argument where there is no means for a contest to prevail.

    :clap2: Good for you! :clap2:

    And that's 'doubly-good for freedom...
     
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    Thanks Newb...

    Isn't cool how the opposition has run for the rhetorical tall grass?

    That's what reason does to the unreasonable... it crushes their means to confuse and distract and otherwise undermine the culture.

    So they turn to those things which serve those ends.
     
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    If you're not a writer of some kind, you should be. You're very talented at very clearly and concisely stating an opinion with a lot of wit and sarcasm added in. I love it! :lol:

    Not to mention, you're absolutely right.
     
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    Your idiocy and ignorance of economics has already been rebutted elsewhere; there's no need for repetition.
     
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    Can't tell if you think this is a serious argument or not... I pray you're beeing clever.



    This is priceless "The socialists living amongst us are determined to dream us back into bondage..."

    hahaha so is this "Left-think is little more than a means to find an 'easier way'... "

    Socialism can be what we make it, it isn't as simple as some may think, nor is any other social model for co-habiation and sustainable existence. The natural order? Look at nature. You'll find examples of communal or socialist behaviour, and every-man-for-himself examples too.

    Why do humans have families... because we're 'genetically' socialist? Or because we found a workable model for a certain stage in our evolution, to make sure certain needs were met, etc. Why do we form communities? Why work together to mutual benefit if it's so evil? Perhaps because if we acted like individuals all the time, self-centered and only self-motivated we'd have died off a long time ago. Socialistic behaviour allows us greater ability as we become more than the sum of our parts so to speak.

    You sound like you just discovered Ayn Rand and think her anti-collectivist pseudo-argument is somehow well-thought out.

    I assume you never rely on socialized services either, as they are the antithesis of your belief system...?
     
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    Yes and plastic is the nature order of hydrocarbons.

    You're an idiot, man.

    Societies = socialism duh! Did I mention you were a clueless idiot?

    Arrogance? We don't hold a candle to you, sport.

    Thank you for your 8th grade perspective on capitalism, lad.


    You don't actually read the news, do you?

    Whatever the market will bear. Caveat emptor, dude.

    So tell me, how big IS your army?


    There actually is some truth to that. What a shame you don't understand your responsibility to the society that carries you.


    Which necessitates a government to insure that FAIR trade, in most cases.

    Yup...living with other people demands some curtailments on freedom.

    Sucks to be human, doesn't it?

    Cockroaches are totally free, lad.
     
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    "Civilization has to be defended against the individual, and its regulations, institutions, and commands are directed to that task." Sigmund Freud

    I am never sure what to make of these straw arguments? The author hasn't the faintest idea what socialism is and for that matter doesn't even know anything about capitalism. What purpose do these bizarre arguments serve and for whom? There is so much wrong in the post, it would be impossible to correct. In this case it is necessary that one throw the whole thing out as nothing of substance is contained therein.

    Look Inside:

    [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Socialism-Very-Short-Introduction-Introductions/dp/0192804316/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1238693541&sr=1-1#reader]Amazon.com: Socialism: A Very Short Introduction (Very Short Introductions): Michael Newman: Books[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Capitalism-Very-Short-Introduction-Introductions/dp/0192802186/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1238694079&sr=1-4]Amazon.com: Capitalism: A Very Short Introduction (Very Short Introductions): James Fulcher: Books[/ame]
     
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