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    By Richard Cohen
    Thursday, May 4, 2006; Page A25

    First, let me state my credentials: I am a funny guy. This is well known in certain circles, which is why, even back in elementary school, I was sometimes asked by the teacher to "say something funny" -- as if the deed could be done on demand. This, anyway, is my standing for stating that Stephen Colbert was not funny at the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner. All the rest is commentary.

    The commentary, though, is also what I do, and it will make the point that Colbert was not just a failure as a comedian but rude. Rude is not the same as brash. It is not the same as brassy. It is not the same as gutsy or thinking outside the box. Rudeness means taking advantage of the other person's sense of decorum or tradition or civility that keeps that other person from striking back or, worse, rising in a huff and leaving. The other night, that person was George W. Bush.


    Colbert made jokes about Bush's approval rating, which hovers in the middle 30s. He made jokes about Bush's intelligence, mockingly comparing it to his own. "We're not some brainiacs on nerd patrol," he said. Boy, that's funny.

    Colbert took a swipe at Bush's Iraq policy, at domestic eavesdropping, and he took a shot at the news corps for purportedly being nothing more than stenographers recording what the Bush White House said. He referred to the recent staff changes at the White House, chiding the media for supposedly repeating the cliche "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic" when he would have put it differently: "This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring. If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg." A mixed metaphor, and lame as can be.

    Why are you wasting my time with Colbert, I hear you ask. Because he is representative of what too often passes for political courage, not to mention wit, in this country. His defenders -- and they are all over the blogosphere -- will tell you he spoke truth to power. This is a tired phrase, as we all know, but when it was fresh and meaningful it suggested repercussions, consequences -- maybe even death in some countries. When you spoke truth to power you took the distinct chance that power would smite you, toss you into a dungeon or -- if you're at work -- take away your office.

    But in this country, anyone can insult the president of the United States. Colbert just did it, and he will not suffer any consequence at all. He knew that going in. He also knew that Bush would have to sit there and pretend to laugh at Colbert's lame and insulting jokes. Bush himself plays off his reputation as a dunce and his penchant for mangling English. Self-mockery can be funny. Mockery that is insulting is not. The sort of stuff that would get you punched in a bar can be said on a dais with impunity. This is why Colbert was more than rude. He was a bully.

    I am not a member of the White House Correspondents' Association, and I have not attended its dinner in years (I watched this year's on C-SPAN). The gala is an essentially harmless event that requires the presence of one man, the president. If presidents started not to show up, the organization would have to transform itself into a burial association. But presidents come and suffer through a ritual that most of them find mildly painful, not to mention boring. Whatever the case, they are guests. They don't have to be there -- and if I were Bush, next year I would not. Spring is a marvelous time to be at Camp David.

    On television, Colbert is often funny. But on his own show he appeals to a self-selected audience that reminds him often of his greatness. In Washington he was playing to a different crowd, and he failed dismally in the funny person's most solemn obligation: to use absurdity or contrast or hyperbole to elucidate -- to make people see things a little bit differently. He had a chance to tell the president and much of important (and self-important) Washington things it would have been good for them to hear. But he was, like much of the blogosphere itself, telling like-minded people what they already know and alienating all the others. In this sense, he was a man for our times.

    He also wasn't funny.

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/03/AR2006050302202.html
     
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    I completely disagree with everything in this article.
     
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    moved to Politics. :)
     
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    His speech was funny, and his main flaw was taking a monologue and stretching it out too far. It would have fit nicely into 5 minutes, but with long pauses and such it lasted what, 20 minutes? The Helen Thomas skit was overly long too, especially the last half.

    The best part wasn't the speech itself--which if delivered on his show would have been merely funny, and elicited a modest chuckle. No, what pushed his speech into the zone of hilarity was that he gave the speech right in front of the president and press corps. The author of this article has a stick up his butt and is missing the point. Of course any american can criticize the president. But how many would do so, for 20 minutes, if they were the guest of honor? Most people can't even ask their neighbor to please stop his dog from crapping on the lawn. The reactions from the press corps were the best part. It's almost as if he were on stage, stirring the punch bowl with his dick.
     
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    I agree with the writer of Stephanie's post. Colbert was NOT funny in that venue, just rude. Not witty, not cutting edge, just rude.
     
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    I feel a lot of people do not understand his character...all he did that night was be who he is on his show...to me he is being OTT mimic of a bunch of more right wing spin talk show hosts...like Bill O'Reilly and Hannity...I also think some people just never get his humour...
    Hubby doesn't like him...when we watch the Colbert Report...he only stays for the one section called the word...
    Which is most of the time quite funny...
    Then again ...seemed no one liked Jon Stewart at the Oscars either...am thinking it is because of thier humor....political humor hasn't really been a big thing on tv since the begining of saturday night live back in the 70's...
    This is JMO...


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    The Helen Thomas skit was way too long, and I honestly wouldn't have cared if it hadn't been there at all. It didn't add anything and was anticlimactic compared to his speech.

    I don't understand the complaint that Colbert was just rude. He's a comedian. He did exactly what he does every night of the week on his show. Certainly, they weren't thinking they would hire him so that he would give a nice respectful speech. I mean, they got that the Colbert Report is satire, right?

    No doubt, he went further than they expected him to. I liked the audience reaction shots that just showed all these people in stunned silence. But, the idea of him being 'rude' doesn't make sense. Any political comedy is rude to somebody, I think the author of this article is just mad because Colbert picked on his guy.
     
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    Dan this 'event' has been around forever, believe it or not, comedians are able to adjust to their audience. Historically there has been some sharp humor, but there was the softening humor to take the sting out.

    If I remember correctly, at one of these Clinton was likewise treated by one comedian over the top about Lewinski, rightly pounded in the press afterwards, same as Colbert. If the 'political funny guy' can't adjust, he was wrongly hired. This is not an invitation to just bash the President, regardless of which party.
     
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    Bingo....
     
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    To call Colbert a comedian is a stretch, he is a hack without a shred of creativity. Typical of the hypo-neo-leftist dimwits like Al"I used to be a wrestler"Franken.
     

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