So..Is campaigning at Church legal now?

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    but but but---------that's different. It's sort of a cultural thing--not REALLY religious. :lol:
     
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    There is just one problem with what you have said and that is that it has never been illegal for candidates to speak to a Church, or to a religious organization during an election. But of course, you want to apply a different standard to Democrats who are doing the same thing that Republicans have done and are able to do under the First Amendment to the Constitution. The reason that the CNN article didn't mention what you have said is because they unlike you understand the Constitution and the law. :eusa_dance:
     
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    I don't recall hearing anyone say that it was a "cultural thing - not REALLY religious" except for you. What you cannot grasp is that people have rights and those rights include freedom of speech and freedom of religion which in fact makes what Obama did constitutional. The Government can not make a law that prohibits the constitutional exercise of these rights illegal based on the location of the speech or practice of religion. That you don't understand the intricate nature of the law in this respect only proves that you are really nothing more than an ignorant person.
     
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    It's democrats, love. And that comment makes you not worth responding to...

    And last I heard, the words Christian and republican aren't synonomous... though you'd like to think you have a lock on the Jesus thing.
     
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    And of the two parties which one routinely complains the other uses religion and politics from the Church?
     
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    Democrats do not complain that Republicans speak about religion and politics from the Church because we recognize that religion is part of our society and that Churches are part of the civic dialogue. What Democrats complain about is that Republicans will often confuse talking with a Church and its members with infusing that Church and religion into government. Obama in the CNN article wasn't attempting to infuse religion into politics. He believes like most people that religion has a right to be part of the public dialogue but it crosses the line when religion is infused with government itself. It is because liberals understand this that the ACLU can sue in behalf of atheists and people who are denied scholarships based on their religious belief and practice. This is something that Democrats are right about even though they are wrong on many other counts. It is Republicans who tend to use religion as a weapon and complain when people point out that religion has its place in the public sphere but that place isn't in the government itself. Here, you have Obama speaking to a Church group and that is only right but Republicans take it one step further and take religion and try to infuse it into our very government. In this Republicans are worst bastards than Democrats.
     
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    Sure thing. Remind me again who preaches Political sermons from the Pulpit? Who organizes church groups to support a specific party? Who had a coniption fit when a Republican spoke at a church in a similar manner?
     

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