So how is employment an Obama problem?

[xotoxi]

probably for the same reasons i'm holding onto mine.

You have a trillion dollars?

Did I ever tell you that I consider you to be a great friend?

Did I ever tell you that del was actually my big brother?

Are you ctrl or alt?

 

[RadiomanATL]

You have a trillion dollars?

Did I ever tell you that I consider you to be a great friend?

Did I ever tell you that del was actually my big brother?

Are you ctrl or alt?

Spacebar.

 

[The T]

Did I ever tell you that del was actually my big brother?

Are you ctrl or alt?

Spacebar.

XO is "FORMAT C"

 

[Jroc]

People don't get it.

No way you came with all that bullshit on your own, if so I'd seek psychological help what a load of crap

 

[shintao]

Ever ask yourself why they're sitting on those resources?

Didn't think so.

Oh, yeah I did. You see I know by making less, they can sell less for more as an item become scarce in a capitalist market, and make a bigger profit. And if there is a complaint to making less, the government will subsidize their sorry asses and give them bonuses for hiring.

Oh yea exactly, that's why Henry ford never put automobiles within reach of anyone but evil rich folk....

Why don't you stick Ford up your arse. That way you will be in the same history era together. It's 2010.

 

[California Girl]

See, this is why there is no sense on the left. Blame business for not investing - in an unstable economy. Fucking morons.

 

[shintao]

Ever ask yourself why they're sitting on those resources?

Didn't think so.

Oh, yeah I did. You see I know by making less, they can sell less for more as an item become scarce in a capitalist market, and make a bigger profit. And if there is a complaint to making less, the government will subsidize their sorry asses and give them bonuses for hiring.

"Translation: "I cannot make it out there on my own...and cannot compete therefore I have to have Government come in and fuck it all up for everyone..."

Don't you know SHITHEAD that is how business is born? I suppose that you HATE competiton...

You have a limited view, and limited history knowledge.

Yeah, stick ford up your arse as well. It's 2010, join the reality world dipshit. That is probably what is wrong with your corporate whores, you think you are still in the Ford era. In todays world big oil cuts their refineries by 40%, and raises their gasoline prices by 100%, and you buy it or go without. And the less they make, the more you are going to pay, and the more you pay the more profit their boardmembers, CEOs & stockholders stuff into their pockets. Figured that out yet??

You are a fool that throws your money away and whines about it.

 

[California Girl]

People don't get it.

By lowering the wages and benefits of the middle class (in order to give the owners lower operating costs), the Reagan Revolution cut the middle class out of the loop. This diverted the lion's share of profits over the last 30 years to the upper class. This ended the broadly shared prosperity which allowed the postwar middle class to consume and drive the economy and send their children to college. The war on labor meant that money would become highly concentrated in the hands of the owners or "suppliers" (supply side economics). So much so that there was too much money chasing too few investment opportunities, which is why Wall Street had to invent ponzi derivatives to keep up with the demand for higher returns. On the other end of the economic spectrum you have the consumption classes, whose wages stagnated while their support programs and benefits were cut. Given this, how could the middle class afford to drive the consumption economy? Where would they get the money? Answer: credit. In order to cover up the fact that all the money was getting stuck on top -- where it was dynastically transferred through inheritances, or stuffed into the pockets of politicians, or poured into think tanks and opinion management -- the Reagan Revolution built the largest credit/debt economy in history, and both parties played along [Indeed, what politician would ever admit to the middle class that they could not live better than their parents?]

Fueling the middle class with credit eventually broke the bank (even though the wealthy walked away with incredible interest payments)

Why on earth would the trillions of dollars of looted money be reinvested into an economy with bankrupt consumers and zombi banks? Where is the incentive? The postwar structure FDR put in place to fuel middle class demand is gone, and the credit used to keep consumers afloat has dried up. Decades of job loss, as well as wage and benefit freezes, have finally come home to roost. There is no more money circulating through the real economy. It became over-concentrated in the pockets of people who couldn't possibly spend it all.

America grew billionaires at the expense of drying up the buying power of the very people who drove the economy.

People don't get. We made the suppliers wealthy beyond their wildest dreams, but we choked the people who actually buy things. The wealthy don't have to expose their golden parachutes to any market risk -- they don't have to reinvest. They already live like royalty, as will their heirs. The game is over. This is exactly how great nations die. They are progressively looted by a small class of people who gain control over the political and information systems. Our country was looted. The great middle class consumption economy died when Reagan decided to transfer all the money to the wealthy. America bought into the voodoo. The money never trickled down. Credit was used to hide the corpse of the failed trickle down policies. And now the credit is gone, leaving the corpse -- the bankrupt America consumer . . . on his way to Washington with a pitchfork, looking for something that doesn't exist: government, which is merely a bogus holding of corporations, something used to absorb risk and populist anger.

That's an impressive amount of 'dumb' in one post. Wow. Just wow.

 

[shintao]

See, this is why there is no sense on the left. Blame business for not investing - in an unstable economy. Fucking morons.

Go bake some cookies with the rest of the fucking imbeciles on the right. A capitalist system is never stable.

 

[skookerasbil]

Who’s Sitting On $1 Trillion In Cash

As economic recovery lags, companies see few reasons to spend
October 27, 2010 | By Paul Ausick

It’s common knowledge that U.S. companies are sitting on a large pile of cash. Moody’s estimates that pile to be worth $1 trillion. It must be a comfortable place to sit, too, because there seems little enthusiasm for whittling the size of the pile down.

Economic Recovery Lags And Companies Aren't Spending | InvestorPlace

Holy Mother of God...................

some forum members are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay in over their head posting stuff in here!!! I suggest People.com!!

We all see threads that scream "NAIVE" in here, but this thread has gotta be up for one of the awards for USMessgeBoard DUMMY THREAD OF THE YEAR!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

See, this is why there is no sense on the left. Blame business for not investing - in an unstable economy. Fucking morons.

Go bake some cookies with the rest of the fucking imbeciles on the right. A capitalist system is never stable.

 

[California Girl]

See, this is why there is no sense on the left. Blame business for not investing - in an unstable economy. Fucking morons.

Go bake some cookies with the rest of the fucking imbeciles on the right. A capitalist system is never stable.

Ahhhh, another poster who, when faced with reality, resorts to misogyny.

 

[skookerasbil]

See, this is why there is no sense on the left. Blame business for not investing - in an unstable economy. Fucking morons.

Go bake some cookies with the rest of the fucking imbeciles on the right. A capitalist system is never stable.

Ahhhh, another poster who, when faced with reality, resorts to misogyny.

We gotta help this guy out California........................

Im posting up this link for the poor fcukk...........got some pretty good ecomomics primers.............

Fun and Games

 

[editec]

Why aren't they investing capital which would also have the effect of hiring people?

Because they do not see a good investment opportunity, that's why.

These
Corporations know perfectly well the DEMAND side is too weak to invest in new hires, plant or equipment.

They see that the American consumer is SAVING at a rate of 6% now (three or four years agao it was 0%, FYI) and paying off debts.

We ARE trapped in that DELFATIONARY cycle, folks.

The Keynesians are RIGHT.

EVen the corporations understand that they cannot jump start this economy until something is done to create demand.

They're not fools, those captains of industry.

The SUPPLY SIDERS are, however

That is, they are fools if we assume the supply siders really want the economy to thrive, of course.

I don't think they do. Not yet, at least.

Not as long as Obama is in office, not until they once again control Congress.

So they keep pressing for tax breaks for billionaires who don't need it, and supporting continued foolish TRADE policies and generally doing what they can to keep this nation's economy on the rocks. They'd rather have the Dems lose than the nation win.

Yeah I'm talking about the GOP's current political strategy, right now.

That's right.

They apparently care more about their party then they do about the economy.

This is hard ball politics.

 

[skookerasbil]

Why aren't they investing capital which would also have the effect of hiring people?

Because they do not see a good investment opportunity, that's why.

They know perfectly well the DEMAND side is too weak.

They see that the American consumer is SAVING at a rate of 6% now (three or four years agao it was 0%, FYI) and paying off debts.

We ARE trapped in that DELFATIONARY cycle, folks.

The keynesians are RIGHT.

EVen the corporations understand that they cannot jump start this economy.

They're not fools, folks.

The SUPPLY SIDERS are, however

That is, ssuming the supply siders really want the economy to thrive, of course.

I don't think they do, really.

Not as long as Obama is in office, at least.

So they keep pressing for tax breaks for billionsaires who don't need it, and supporting continued foolish TRADE policies and generally doing wht they can to keep this nation's economy on the rocks.

Yeah I'm talking about the GOP's political strategy, right now.

That's right.

They care more about their party then they do about you unemployed folks.

They always have and they always will, too.

here ya go s0n..................

Economics for Kids - Education Resource - StudySphere

 

[snjmom]

A capitalist system is never stable.

This is true. Capitalism depends on growth and destruction on the micro while generally trending upward on the macro.

Londoner is correct in his assessment of the money movements since the Reagan era. It should be obvious how money has moved. When the mechanisms instituted to prevent accumulations of money and power that create instabilities in markets are destroyed, this is where we are.
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[L.K.Eder]

See, this is why there is no sense on the left. Blame business for not investing - in an unstable economy. Fucking morons.

Go bake some cookies with the rest of the fucking imbeciles on the right. A capitalist system is never stable.

Ahhhh, another poster who, when faced with reality, resorts to misogyny.

look, the vayjayjay card.

i think he just wants cookies.

 

[Jroc]

These businesses are not going to invest their money, expand or hire worker in this economic climate when they don’t know what the tax rate is going to be, what kind of mandates and regulation are go to be imposed by this left wing administration Cap & trade? Maybe they wont be able to pass it but the EPA is going to impose it’s own stricter rules. too much big government smothering business , thats the bottom line. All this left wing propaganda from you left wing lunitics, is just that propaganda, driven by these unions and wacko left wing socialist in this country and they are spending big, over 220 million of their members money in this election.


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[Claudette]

These businesses are not going to invest their money, expand or hire worker in this economic climate when they don’t know what the tax rate is going to be, what kind of mandates and regulation are go to be imposed by this left wing administration Cap & trade? Maybe they wont be able to pass it but the EPA is going to impose it’s own stricter rules. too much big government smothering business , thats the bottom line. All this left wing propaganda from you left wing lunitics, is just that propaganda, driven by these unions and wacko left wing socialist in this country and they are spending big, over 220 million of their members money in this election.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfr6PTazXkQ

Ditto.

Was watching Morning Joe the other morning and Joe Scarboarough said the same thing. He's spoken with the CFO's in several companies.

Businesses are sitting on billions and they will do nothing until they see what its going to cost them.

They will do nothing until they see what the Clowns in DC are going to do.

 

[Justin Buell]

It became his problem the minute he was sworn into office. That's what it means to be President, you must take over all responsibility from day one.