Shouldn't the US Government Buy American Products?

[VaYank5150]

Only in an economic survival sense.

Sounds like Socialism to me...

Buy Amertican has always been seen as patriotic.

I buy from local merchants as I see THAT as patriotic to my community...even if it means paying a bit more.

I thought liberals do not mind paying a little more if it means helping American Citizens that are struggling.

But based on your posts in this thread VaY.....you confirm my sentiments...as follows:

Liberals are all for paying for those Americans that are struggling...AS LONG AS IT IS SOMEONE ELSES MONEY.
Well done VaY...I knew you were a phony.

I am no liberal and I do not see why our government providing healthcare to it's citizens who cannot afford it, is considered Socialism by the right, but propping up corporations with government contracts is not....please explain.

 

[RodISHI]

I suppose the American brands of lead free crystal were not good enough.

lead free crystal made in america - Google Search

Or perhaps they were too pricey? I am SURE there is a union involved with the American companies.

Then you should have no problem backing up your assumption.

 

[Oldandtired]

Sounds like Socialism to me...

Buy Amertican has always been seen as patriotic.

I buy from local merchants as I see THAT as patriotic to my community...even if it means paying a bit more.

I thought liberals do not mind paying a little more if it means helping American Citizens that are struggling.

But based on your posts in this thread VaY.....you confirm my sentiments...as follows:

Liberals are all for paying for those Americans that are struggling...AS LONG AS IT IS SOMEONE ELSES MONEY.
Well done VaY...I knew you were a phony.

I am no liberal and I do not see why our government providing healthcare to it's citizens who cannot afford it, is considered Socialism by the right, but propping up corporations with government contracts is not....please explain.

I can nopt speak for those that call HCR socialism. It is not. Likewise, I do not see government purchasing only American made products as socilaism...I see it as patriotic and leading by example.

And as I posted in another thread a few minutes ago....healthcare reform is a dilemma...and those solutions on the table by the dems are necessary if the pre-existing conditions clauses are to be outlawed.

If they explained it better...and they have had a multitude of chances to do so, people may actually see the dilemma and not see the solutions as a "government takeover"...or socialism.

But instead, they go out there and double talk us.....I know the dilemma and I understand their solutions. I hate them...but I also understand that they are the only options if we are to eliminate pre-existing conditions.

THAT IS WHAT THEY NEED TO GET OUT TO THE PEOPLE.

 

[Xenophon]

Finding good American stuff is getting harder and harder.

 

[Oldandtired]

Finding good American stuff is getting harder and harder.

but worth the time and effort to find them non the less.

 

[VaYank5150]

I suppose the American brands of lead free crystal were not good enough.

lead free crystal made in america - Google Search

Or perhaps they were too pricey? I am SURE there is a union involved with the American companies.

Then you should have no problem backing up your assumption.

Well, since Clinton chose a contractor, who in turn, sub'd out the Crystal contract, we do not know if the price of the crytsal was known to Clinton or not. However, a quick Google search produced an article that confirms my assumption that Steuben Glass is in fact a union factory....
Steuben Glass sold, will stay in Corning - Corning, NY - The Corning Leader

 

[VaYank5150]

Finding good American stuff is getting harder and harder.

but worth the time and effort to find them non the less.

Kinda like our healthcare system. Best in the world for those who can afford it?

 

[VaYank5150]

Besides, the overall contract did go to an American company, and a minority owned one at that.

 

[Care4all]

Well, I don't agree with this, the sub contractor should have used an American company, lead free or not....imho.

Why? Why should my tax dollars be used to prop up American companies that produce inferior products, and cost more? Does this make sense to anyone?

if you read the article vayank, it says that it was a no bid contract from the subcontractor ....so pricing was not an issue....at least that was my understanding....

 

[Oldandtired]

Well, I don't agree with this, the sub contractor should have used an American company, lead free or not....imho.

Why? Why should my tax dollars be used to prop up American companies that produce inferior products, and cost more? Does this make sense to anyone?

if you read the article vayank, it says that it was a no bid contract from the subcontractor ....so pricing was not an issue....at least that was my understanding....

And if that is the case, and I see it the same way, then Hillary did what many Americans do...bought for status.

I, for one, do not buy for status and I am insulted that regardless, I am forced by my paid politicians to buy for status.

 

[Care4all]

well, the article said they bought it from them for all of their embassies because the swiss had lead free crystal collections to choose from....and they wanted lead free crystal probably because of lead toxicity? Of course I am guessing here....

but even if that were the case, I do not see how drinking out of crystal with lead, at embassy dinner parties or with special guests, would be something frequent for the same person so even if it were for that reason, I don't see how it would be that much of an issue.

 

[Foxfyre]

well, the article said they bought it from them for all of their embassies because the swiss had lead free crystal collections to choose from....and they wanted lead free crystal probably because of lead toxicity? Of course I am guessing here....

but even if that were the case, I do not see how drinking out of crystal with lead, at embassy dinner parties or with special guests, would be something frequent for the same person so even if it were for that reason, I don't see how it would be that much of an issue.

I have no problem with with lead free specifications, but I have a huge problem with no American company being allowed to bid on the contract to make it. That was a huge order and no snob appeal justifies not giving American companies an opportunity to meet whatever specifications Clinton wanted. If no American company could produce the product with the prescribed specifications and at a comparable price, then give the contract to a Swedish company. But no American company even had a chance.

Halliburton is a little different as there IS no other company in the world that can do what Halliburton does. The closest to it is a French firm, and I don't have any problem with any administration using Halliburton over a French firm. Every administration, GOP and Democrat, has used and is using Halliburton.

 

[Ragnar]

Sheesh... crystal fucking stemware?

They should be drinking out of paper dixie cups or cheap plastic Wal Mart ware for special occasions. When Queen or King Whashisface asked what's what we can tell them... your drinking from plastic so American taxpayers can afford thte best crystal stemware in the world.

As for who buys what from where...

"Buy American" is Un-American. Buy the best goods from the best producers at the best possible price. The only stuff that we should buy as only American made (or our allies) is the stuff we need for the military and security agencies.

 

[xotoxi]

Should there be laws that prevent the federal government from purchasing from foreign countries?

Or should there be laws that ensure that the federal government make purchases from the lowest bid?

You can't ALWAYS have both.

 

[Foxfyre]

Should there be laws that prevent the federal government from purchasing from foreign countries?

Or should there be laws that ensure that the federal government make purchases from the lowest bid?

You can't ALWAYS have both.

No there should be no law preventing the federal government (or anybody else) from purchasing from foreign countries.

Yes the federal government should accept the lowest bid that can realistically meet the specifications needed.

Yes there should be laws allowing Americans to compete for those bids in all cases.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Why doesn't she buy this stuff herself? She certainly has enough cash no? My God,this Administration is full of Billionaires for God's sake. If they don't want to buy American then they should have to pay for it themselves. Sound good? Globalism is way overrated. The Global Economy hasn't done anything for American Workers except hurt them. I don't care what the idiots say about "Protectionism & Isolationism." Those accusations are all part of the scam. Let Hillary and her gang buy this stuff themselves.

 

[kyzr]

Should there be laws that prevent the federal government from purchasing from foreign countries?

Or should there be laws that ensure that the federal government make purchases from the lowest bid?

You can't ALWAYS have both.

No there should be no law preventing the federal government (or anybody else) from purchasing from foreign countries.

Yes the federal government should accept the lowest bid that can realistically meet the specifications needed.

Yes there should be laws allowing Americans to compete for those bids in all cases.

The Laws should require US made goods be bought with US tax dollars. Private citizens can buy from anyone, but the government needs to promote US businesses and US jobs. Its simply protecting its tax base.