CrusaderFrank
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Tulsi and Bernie should run Third Party.
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It's pretty sad when a candidate runs on removing ourselves from interventionist wars and instead help the people here can't find a place to fit in.
Seems to me she is the sane one.
It's pretty sad when a candidate runs on removing ourselves from interventionist wars and instead help the people here can't find a place to fit in.
Seems to me she is the sane one.
Again, big difference between wanting to fix our foreign policy and sucking Bashir Assad's dick.
Now, reality time. Democrats always run on this, 'We are going to have a gentler Foreign Policy than the Republicans", and every time, they get gob-smacked by the reality that there are a lot of bad actors in the world.
Personally, I'd rather go back to Democrats like FDR, Truman, LBJ and JFK who had balls, than these simpering "can't we all get along" guys like Carter, Clinton and Obama who get rolled by various dictators.
The Democrats need to exorcise the ghost of George McGovern.
Is this known from personal experience?
Trump has said how many times now that he was going to pull the troops only to do nothing? It's a legit complaint about Democrats in general but hypocritical from someone supporting the Republicans. How many times have they told us that they were going to do something about the debt?
That noted, she spoke up when Obama got us involved in Syria in the first place. She did not remain quite like so many others. You also have to meet with foreign leaders to get anywhere. Trump has no problem going to N. Korea.
I don't think I can take much from this statement. Obama was one of the biggest war mongers this country has ever had. Tell me though, what has 18 years in Iraq got us?
their is something about her.
their is something about her.
She's the hottest tard around maybe?
Is this known from personal experience?
I'm not the one who flies to Damascus and tells Bashir what a great guy he is...That would be Crazy Tulsi.
I don't support the Republicans...
Here's my problem with our politics. Republicans are for doing the bidding of the rich. Democrats are pussies... They keep thinking they can "change" the world by just understanding those guys... and they get rolled. See also- Obama and the Arab Spring.
Trump is president. She isn't. I will be the first one to say our policy towards Syria was kind of a fuckup... But fluffing Bashir like she did was just wrong.
"Oh, no, Obama is going to get us!" said no dictator, ever.
The problem with Obama was that he was trying to look tough when he wasn't. For instance, he wanted to pull out of Iraq, but didn't want to look weak so he escalated in Afghanistan even after Karzai stole the 2009 election and made the whole exercise kind of pointless.
The problem I had with Obama's foreign policy is that he went along with the Arab Spring, which backfired spectacularly. Egypt elected Jihadists before the military took over again, Libya and Yemen collapsed into civil war, and the Iranians expanded into Iraq and Syria.
But if you subscribe to the Commie Bernie view, Obama was a warmonger.
You guys are going to give us four more years of Trump.
No, you are the guy who promotes BS because you know she was right. We simply made up a reason to start a war. It's what we do.
Speaking out of both sides of your mouth here. Leaders do and should meet with other world leaders. When the leader of this country is screwing up there is nothing wrong with others stepping up. Assad did nothing to us outside of not bowing down to wall street.
Pulling out of Iraq was the promise Bush made and signed. Obama's problem was that he didn't do it.What have we gained by wasting trillions in Iraq the last 18 years?
Depending on who wins the primaries it may again make no difference to me who wins. Trump even says the same thing as Bernie is saying, that's it's none of our business. You are saying he is wrong but you are for him anyway. Foreign policy doesn't matter to you. Your hatred for others is all that consumes you.
No, you are the guy who promotes BS because you know she was right. We simply made up a reason to start a war. It's what we do.
We didn't start the war in Syria...
Again, you go with that Commie Bernie line.
Not a thing... We gained less by pulling out and then having to go back in because Obama didn't think through the implications.
I'm a realist. America has a role in the world, no matter what the party in power is.
We started a new war with Syria. Evading the point does not make for a valid rebuttal. We had NO business getting involved.
Another common tactic from those like yourself. Don't address the issue, try and make it about me.
So, 18 years and we have gained nothing but you support continuing to do that. Does that really make sense to you?
And yet you can't explain what we have gained by 18 years of war.
We started a new war with Syria. Evading the point does not make for a valid rebuttal. We had NO business getting involved.
You mean other than ISIS Had set up a caliphate inside of Syria and Iraq and was waging terrorist activity across Europe...
You Bernie Bros cost us 2016 and you'll probably end up costing us 2020.
I'm for getting the job done right the first time. We've been at war with Iraq since I was in the Army, and that really was a long time ago. So it's been more like 30 years we've been at this.
You go into a war, you go in to win. We forgot how to win wars, that's the problem.
Again, you are asking me to defend how badly Bush and Obama fucked this up... Which I won't do.
But the reality... we are going to be involved in that part of the world, regardless. We just need to do it smart.
No they weren't.
Hillary cost the (D)'s the election. They will probably be stupid enough to run her again.
Smart is minding our own business. One should also note, it was Hillary that screwed things up along with Obama but I was still supposed to support her?
No they weren't.
So all those terrorist attacks were just made up? Are you taking Dale Smith's crazy pills?
Naw, man, the Bernie Bros thinking Americans will embrace socialism is the problem.
Naw, man you should keep voting for Cosmonaut Bernie.... He's a commie who just takes up space.
Tulsi Gabbard "United We Stand! And We Must Stand United To Fulfill The Founders Vision!"I must say I like this lady....the sanest democrat in sight.
It would be great if she runs as a 3rd party candidate.....no reason why she should not...the democrats are not treating her fairly.
Why Do Republicans Support Tulsi Gabbard?
She's just what Democrats used to be.I must say I like this lady....the sanest democrat in sight.
It would be great if she runs as a 3rd party candidate.....no reason why she should not...the democrats are not treating her fairly.
Why Do Republicans Support Tulsi Gabbard?