Should State Governments have the right to overturn the popular vote?

JLW

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“G.O.P. lawmakers have also stripped secretaries of state of their power, asserted more control over state election boards, made it easier to overturn election results, and pursued several partisan audits and inspections of 2020 results.

Republican state lawmakers have introduced at least 216 bills in 41 states to give legislatures more power over elections officials, according to the States United Democracy Center, a new bipartisan organization that aims to protect democratic norms. Of those, 24 have been enacted into law across 14 states.”



It appears this is where we are heading. Republicans are pushing laws to give the party in power the authority to overturn election results. Will Democrats now follow?

We all know Conservatives have no love for democracy, so their actions to nullify elections is no great surprise.

The question is this good for the Country? Should State governments have the right to nullify election results, (local, state or federal) to benefit the party in power?
 
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“G.O.P. lawmakers have also stripped secretaries of state of their power, asserted more control over state election boards, made it easier to overturn election results, and pursued several partisan audits and inspections of 2020 results.

Republican state lawmakers have introduced at least 216 bills in 41 states to give legislatures more power over elections officials, according to the States United Democracy Center, a new bipartisan organization that aims to protect democratic norms. Of those, 24 have been enacted into law across 14 states.”


It appears this is where we are heading. Republicans are pushing laws to give the party in power to overturn election results. Will Democrats now follow?

We all know Conservatives have no love for democracy, so their actions to nullify elections is no great surprise.

The question is this good for the Country? Should state government shave the right to nullify election results to benefit the party in power?
sadly for you we have this thing called the constitution and it clearly says whos in charge of elections,,
 
Trump showed them the way.

Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.

Trump failed because the state legislatures don’t have that authority.

Now they do
 
Trump showed them the way.

Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.

Trump failed because the state legislatures don’t have that authority.

Now they do
The question do you believe in the power of the vote or do you not. The GOP wants to eviscerate the power of the individual and put it in the hands of the State.
 
Trump showed them the way.

Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.

Trump failed because the state legislatures don’t have that authority.

Now they do
The question do you believe in the power of the vote or do you not. The GOP wants to eviscerate the power of the individual and put it in the hands of the State.
the power of the vote is more dangerous than the covid,,, people are stupid and easily controlled and why all democracies fail,,
 
Trump showed them the way.

Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.

Trump failed because the state legislatures don’t have that authority.

Now they do
The question do you believe in the power of the vote or do you not. The GOP wants to eviscerate the power of the individual and put it in the hands of the State.
the power of the vote is more dangerous than the covid,,, people are stupid and easily controlled and why all democracies fail,,
Apparently, all those that fought and died for free and fair elections, or for government for the people and by the people, died in vain in your view.
 
Trump showed them the way.

Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.

Trump failed because the state legislatures don’t have that authority.

Now they do
The question do you believe in the power of the vote or do you not. The GOP wants to eviscerate the power of the individual and put it in the hands of the State.
the power of the vote is more dangerous than the covid,,, people are stupid and easily controlled and why all democracies fail,,
Apparently, all those that fought and died for free and fair elections, or for government for the people and by the people, died in vain in your view.
thats two different things,, the fought and died for freedom and the vote as your implying it can take that away,,
 
Trump showed them the way.

Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.

Trump failed because the state legislatures don’t have that authority.

Now they do
The question do you believe in the power of the vote or do you not. The GOP wants to eviscerate the power of the individual and put it in the hands of the State.
the power of the vote is more dangerous than the covid,,, people are stupid and easily controlled and why all democracies fail,,
Apparently, all those that fought and died for free and fair elections, or for government for the people and by the people, died in vain in your view.
thats two different things,, the fought and died for freedom and the vote as your implying it can take that away,,
Can you have a free society, if your vote means nothing?
 
Trump showed them the way.

Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.

Trump failed because the state legislatures don’t have that authority.

Now they do
The question do you believe in the power of the vote or do you not. The GOP wants to eviscerate the power of the individual and put it in the hands of the State.
GOP never liked the idea of the popular vote and worked to hold down the number of voters.

Now, Trump has shown them a better way. Just overturn the will of the voters under a false pretext
 
Trump showed them the way.

Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.

Trump failed because the state legislatures don’t have that authority.

Now they do
The question do you believe in the power of the vote or do you not. The GOP wants to eviscerate the power of the individual and put it in the hands of the State.
the power of the vote is more dangerous than the covid,,, people are stupid and easily controlled and why all democracies fail,,
Apparently, all those that fought and died for free and fair elections, or for government for the people and by the people, died in vain in your view.
thats two different things,, the fought and died for freedom and the vote as your implying it can take that away,,
Can you have a free society, if your vote means nothing?
depends on what your voting about,,, but the constitution has done a good job at keeping us free,, the problem is getting dems and repubes to follow it,,
 
Trump showed them the way.

Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.

Trump failed because the state legislatures don’t have that authority.

Now they do
The question do you believe in the power of the vote or do you not. The GOP wants to eviscerate the power of the individual and put it in the hands of the State.
the power of the vote is more dangerous than the covid,,, people are stupid and easily controlled and why all democracies fail,,
I guess we should make Joe Biden dictator for life then.
 
Trump showed them the way.

Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.

Trump failed because the state legislatures don’t have that authority.

Now they do
The question do you believe in the power of the vote or do you not. The GOP wants to eviscerate the power of the individual and put it in the hands of the State.
the power of the vote is more dangerous than the covid,,, people are stupid and easily controlled and why all democracies fail,,
I guess we should make Joe Biden dictator for life then.
that would be stupid,,
 
Trump showed them the way.

Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.

Trump failed because the state legislatures don’t have that authority.

Now they do
The question do you believe in the power of the vote or do you not. The GOP wants to eviscerate the power of the individual and put it in the hands of the State.
the power of the vote is more dangerous than the covid,,, people are stupid and easily controlled and why all democracies fail,,
Apparently, all those that fought and died for free and fair elections, or for government for the people and by the people, died in vain in your view.
thats two different things,, the fought and died for freedom and the vote as your implying it can take that away,,
Can you have a free society, if your vote means nothing?
and what if the vote was for restarting slavery???
 
Trump showed them the way.

Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.

Trump failed because the state legislatures don’t have that authority.

Now they do
The question do you believe in the power of the vote or do you not. The GOP wants to eviscerate the power of the individual and put it in the hands of the State.
the power of the vote is more dangerous than the covid,,, people are stupid and easily controlled and why all democracies fail,,
Apparently, all those that fought and died for free and fair elections, or for government for the people and by the people, died in vain in your view.
thats two different things,, the fought and died for freedom and the vote as your implying it can take that away,,
Can you have a free society, if your vote means nothing?
and what if the vote was for restarting slavery???
That is why we have courts
 
Trump showed them the way.

Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.

Trump failed because the state legislatures don’t have that authority.

Now they do
The question do you believe in the power of the vote or do you not. The GOP wants to eviscerate the power of the individual and put it in the hands of the State.
the power of the vote is more dangerous than the covid,,, people are stupid and easily controlled and why all democracies fail,,
Apparently, all those that fought and died for free and fair elections, or for government for the people and by the people, died in vain in your view.
You're asking ruthless authoritarians if they want things to be fair? You cannot depend on any institution, no law, no sense of decency to protect democracy from them. Few democrats realize what we are dealing with yet.
 
Trump showed them the way.

Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.

Trump failed because the state legislatures don’t have that authority.

Now they do
The question do you believe in the power of the vote or do you not. The GOP wants to eviscerate the power of the individual and put it in the hands of the State.
the power of the vote is more dangerous than the covid,,, people are stupid and easily controlled and why all democracies fail,,
Apparently, all those that fought and died for free and fair elections, or for government for the people and by the people, died in vain in your view.
thats two different things,, the fought and died for freedom and the vote as your implying it can take that away,,
Can you have a free society, if your vote means nothing?
and what if the vote was for restarting slavery???
That is why we have courts
this is why we have a constitution,,
 
Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.

Trump failed because the state legislatures don’t have that authority.

Now they do
The question do you believe in the power of the vote or do you not. The GOP wants to eviscerate the power of the individual and put it in the hands of the State.
the power of the vote is more dangerous than the covid,,, people are stupid and easily controlled and why all democracies fail,,
Apparently, all those that fought and died for free and fair elections, or for government for the people and by the people, died in vain in your view.
thats two different things,, the fought and died for freedom and the vote as your implying it can take that away,,
Can you have a free society, if your vote means nothing?
and what if the vote was for restarting slavery???

I am not going to argue with you that there were times the people were wrong. They have been. However, when compared with decisions of authoritarian regimes, Representative Democracies have been successful. That is because representative democracies change with times, sometimes not without some unrest; authoritarian regimes are stagnant which leads to uprisings and misery, and eventually, their toppling.
 
Trump showed them the way.

Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.
Trump showed them the way.

Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.

Trump failed because the state legislatures don’t have that authority.

Now they do
The question do you believe in the power of the vote or do you not. The GOP wants to eviscerate the power of the individual and put it in the hands of the State.
the power of the vote is more dangerous than the covid,,, people are stupid and easily controlled and why all democracies fail,,
Apparently, all those that fought and died for free and fair elections, or for government for the people and by the people, died in vain in your view.
thats two different things,, the fought and died for freedom and the vote as your implying it can take that away,,
Can you have a free society, if your vote means nothing?
and what if the vote was for restarting slavery???

I am not going to argue with you that there were times the people were wrong. However, when compared with decisions of authoritarian regimes, Representative Democracies have been spot. That is because representative democracies change with times; authoritarian regimes are stagnant which leads to uprisings and misery.
we are a constitutional republic not a representative democracy,,

once you figure that out you wont ask anymore stupid questions,,

and the constitution is very specific and not broadly written,,
 
Trump showed them the way.

Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.
Trump showed them the way.

Fabricate false election fraud claims and then ask partisan state lawmakers to back them and overturn the voters.

Trump failed because the state legislatures don’t have that authority.

Now they do
The question do you believe in the power of the vote or do you not. The GOP wants to eviscerate the power of the individual and put it in the hands of the State.
the power of the vote is more dangerous than the covid,,, people are stupid and easily controlled and why all democracies fail,,
Apparently, all those that fought and died for free and fair elections, or for government for the people and by the people, died in vain in your view.
thats two different things,, the fought and died for freedom and the vote as your implying it can take that away,,
Can you have a free society, if your vote means nothing?
and what if the vote was for restarting slavery???

I am not going to argue with you that there were times the people were wrong. However, when compared with decisions of authoritarian regimes, Representative Democracies have been spot. That is because representative democracies change with times; authoritarian regimes are stagnant which leads to uprisings and misery.
we are a constitutional republic not a representative democracy,,

once you figure that out you wont ask anymore stupid questions,,

and the constitution is very specific and not broadly written,,
I am sorry that you responded that way. You obviously do not have any understanding of the Constitution nor what a representative democracy is.

Everything you wrong in your post is dead wrong.
 

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