CDZ Should Mexico pay us an import Tariff for illegals they ship to us?

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    I'm thinking this could be implemented right at the border on every truck or train that is shipping goods (or possibly illegals) from Mexico to the US. I propose a fifty dollar fee per truck and per train car to help the USA pay for the additional border security due to their transporting of non citizens to our border. And of course the high quality day care and accommodations we are providing them while we try to figure out if they really are parents or impostors or criminals.

    No more free ride for Mexico. No more Uncle Sam being played for a chump. What's that Mexico? You don't like paying the Tariff? Then stop shipping them.
     
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    Great idea.
     
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    Cut off all aid until they cut off the illegal trains of people....
     
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    One cannot expect ‘clean debate’ when the thread premise fails as a lie and loaded question fallacy.

    The thread premise is predicated on the ignorant, wrongheaded notion that Mexico is somehow ‘facilitating’ undocumented immigrants seeking asylum coming to the United States, when in fact nothing could be further from the truth.
     
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    The actual costs need to be computed:

    processing costs

    Deaths caused by illegals who come from or through Mexico

    And enforce those proposals with an embargo on goods from Mexico.
     
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    Yeah get that going alongside Mexico paying for a wall.

    Cons you get more delusional as time goes by.
     
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    My thread premise is based on the fact that Mexico is corrupt to the core. You do understand that don't you? How do you think all of those illegal aliens make their way into trucks and train cars? Mexican officials are bribed at every level. Drug Cartels pull the strings possibly all the way up to the President of Mexico. And Central America is even worse. Since trucks and trains make up a substantial percentage of the illegal traffic flowing up from Mexico it as perfectly logical to assess Mexico an import Tariff for the human cargo being shipped into our country.
     
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    There are numerous reasons to shoot this idea down, but I'll instead focus on just one aspect.

    What if they simply don't pay?
     
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    I'm conflicted but on the surface it isn't the most ridiculous of ideas.

    By charging vehicles though you are charging people who are not entering illegally for the acts of their neighbors. Its probably technically constitutional but only in the liberal sense of a technicality.

    This site claims we give 87 million of foreign aid to Mexico. How Much Foreign Aid the United States Gives Mexico

    Now I'm not saying to eliminate it. Our corporations, people who live near the border, the rest of us and vacationers have varying levels of an interest in Mexico not being the worst country in Central America or having a socialist revolution or something. SO, I think we should continue paying for influence down there so we can capitalistically compete with the drug lords in their elections.

    How about we announce AN INCREASE in aid to Mexico, say up to 125 million next year but it gets reduced to 87 million gradually if they don't do more to discourage illegals by this or that many? It isn't Mexico's job to defend our borders but we can try to bribe them and offering a potential increase in aid should not make many enemies. I'm not even sure how much Mexico can do, but at least there will be a stigma against crossers? Maybe?

    I'm spitballing, help me out here.
     

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