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- Nov 29, 2008
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What happened in that episode? I don't usually watch Law and Order.
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There are laws about public nudity and there are laws to protect us from ourselves - esp. when it comes to children. "Innocent" pics sent to a boyfriend often become public. Treating it as no big deal is not the solution. It can become a very big deal when Suzie is bullied at school or tries to run for Congress one day. There must be consequences BEFORE that happens. And for many bright young ladies, the threat of a record of some kind might be a very effective deterrent. Just like statutory rape laws.
Besides, I really don't understand why teenage sex is so taboo anyways. Fundies claim that teenage sex is entirely immoral, that teen pregnancy is all wrong, and then they wonder why so many teens have abortions to hide the pregnancy from their own fundamentalist families. It's totally a lose-lose situation with teenagers, too, because the time in our lives when pregnancy is the best possibility is during the teen years. It just goes downwards from there.
There are laws about public nudity and there are laws to protect us from ourselves - esp. when it comes to children. "Innocent" pics sent to a boyfriend often become public. Treating it as no big deal is not the solution. It can become a very big deal when Suzie is bullied at school or tries to run for Congress one day. There must be consequences BEFORE that happens. And for many bright young ladies, the threat of a record of some kind might be a very effective deterrent. Just like statutory rape laws.
Besides, I really don't understand why teenage sex is so taboo anyways. Fundies claim that teenage sex is entirely immoral, that teen pregnancy is all wrong, and then they wonder why so many teens have abortions to hide the pregnancy from their own fundamentalist families. It's totally a lose-lose situation with teenagers, too, because the time in our lives when pregnancy is the best possibility is during the teen years. It just goes downwards from there.
JD, I've seen studies which indicaate the mother and baby are (statistically) healthiest when the mother is in her early twenties. Financially most teens have trouble with raising children, another reason to wait on the babies.
To the OP - something has to be addressed to prevent a tech savvy teen from taking a sexually exocative picture of themself and inserting it in an unwitting victim's data cache. A nightmare scenario might ensue when a completely innocent individual was charged with child pronography on the 'evidence' found in their posession. This may be a step in that direction or (perhaps more likely given the nature of lawmakers) it may be an attention grab by a media hungry politico.
There are laws about public nudity and there are laws to protect us from ourselves - esp. when it comes to children. "Innocent" pics sent to a boyfriend often become public. Treating it as no big deal is not the solution. It can become a very big deal when Suzie is bullied at school or tries to run for Congress one day. There must be consequences BEFORE that happens. And for many bright young ladies, the threat of a record of some kind might be a very effective deterrent. Just like statutory rape laws.
But it's still a fucking non-crime. Should we have laws to prevent people from saying something stupid or joining Scientology? Government should not exist to baby us, it's not our parent, and if there should be consequences it should come from the parent not the government.
Besides we're all ready treating it like pictures of children being molested (aka child porn). If your deterrent theory held water that would be enough. Also adding the punishment onto it just makes the situation worse.
I'll never understand the thought process of people who want such despicable nanny-states.
Getting drunk and doing something you'll regret is not illegal (as long as it's in private and you don't drive) and pictures of it may haunt people. Shall we ban that as well in your apparent effort to protect people from themselves and make everything the government's business.
How about all the myriad other things people could be blackmailed over?
Could you at least agree that prosecuting them the same way we prosecute those who sell pictures of kiddys being molested is insane?
Clearly, I was not being clear. I am not trying to force teens to avoid sex. I am however concerned that the children they produce may have serious problems because of the teenagers inability to care for them. Yes anyone might be in that position, but teens are particularly prone to certain problems, so, as you say, something might be done better.Teens are having sex. They are more likely to get pregnant than 20 somethings, biologically. If they need better jobs to be available to them so that they can raise kids, then we, as parents, need to cut the apron strings a little bit and raise them with higher academic and work standards than many parents these days do.
Fucking whatever- You wont concede to that point, I am sure- which means that your beliefs are inconsistent about this, and are only arguing against teen rights. .
Clearly, I was not being clear. I am not trying to force teens to avoid sex. I am however concerned that the children they produce may have serious problems because of the teenagers inability to care for them. Yes anyone might be in that position, but teens are particularly prone to certain problems, so, as you say, something might be done better.Teens are having sex. They are more likely to get pregnant than 20 somethings, biologically. If they need better jobs to be available to them so that they can raise kids, then we, as parents, need to cut the apron strings a little bit and raise them with higher academic and work standards than many parents these days do.
Fucking whatever- You wont concede to that point, I am sure- which means that your beliefs are inconsistent about this, and are only arguing against teen rights. .
I am not against nude pictures; Michelangelo's David, Botticelli's Venus, and scores of other artworks feature the nude form. Pornography is a different issue, particularly when adults exploit children to produce it. The OP sounds like it stems from a politician's attempt to exploit public ignorance to create a hot topic they can use to advance their career, not from a serious attempt to protect children from criminal exploitation.
I apologize for the confusion engendered by my original post.