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    Im a jew, son of an israel man, an american woman.

    Im torn on this issue.

    On one hand, many say the settlements are illegal, because of international law

    On the other, many say the settlements are needed to combat islamic terrorism, and with the fact, that muslims/islam stole 57 countries from christians, and are pursecuting christians worldwide, the settlements are needed more then ever.

    Your opinion is, and why?


    Second, do you believe all terrorism against israel will end, if all the settlement are torn down and all the jews leave the west bank?
     
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    Israel helps Israel and it's certainly not doing any Americans or Christians any favors. In fact it's damn expensive
     
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    There's no reason for the settlements in terms of "combat[ing] Islamic terrorism" and that wasn't and isn't the reason for their establishment. They were established because of a desire of some to re-establish Israel the way it was in biblical times. I don't so much care that it's purportedly a violation of International Law (given that Israel is the only country I can think of which has won land in defensive battle and then has a good chunk of the world yelling that they should give it back). However, the settlements make Israel look bad in the eyes of the world. They take away the high ground. That's why Sharon, in his latter days, unilaterally said they needed to be given up.

    That said, the Golan Heights should stay a de-militarized buffer zone ... otherwise the people below the Syrian bunkers become targets.
     
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    I always considered the settlements more of a human "early warning system."

    I agree about the Golan Heights.
     
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    That's an interesting way of seeing the settlements. How so?
     
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    The settlements are in occupied Arab land. Allowing Israeli's to settle there puts friendlies in unfriendly territory, and back when this first happened (67, I believe), "early warning" still relied heavily on "eyes on." To attack Israel, Arab nations would have to go through occupied territory first.

    Unlikely they could get all the way to Israel's borders without the word getting out in enough time to be waiting on line and launch aerial strikes.
     
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    Ahhhhhhhhhh... now I understand. And it makes sense. But given the advances in technology and the like, do you still think they serve such a purpose?
     
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    It's my opinion that's why Sharon was willing to concede the land. Technology can now do the job.

    What he didn't reckon on are the militant Jews, and/or the people who call those "settlements" home. IIRC, both made quite a bit of noise about it.
     
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    Might be true. I guess I always felt that Sharon also moderated his views a bit toward the end.... with a little shove from us.

    It wasn't just a little noise... was pretty raw, actually.
     
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    Think about it though ... why not make a "peace offering" when it costs you very little strategically?

    My personal opinion is that Israel deserved to keep whatever land it took in unfair fights weighed heavily against it.
     

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