Senate vote to defund Planned Parenthood fails

[rightwinger]

Planned Parenthood gets no federal funding for abortion services
Defunding them will mean the section that provides those services will be all that is left

Defunding their birth contol efforts will only result in MORE abortions

Ohhorse shit.

Money is fungible and giving them money for one purpose frees it up for other purposes by other funds also.

No it isn't
There are strict firewalls on the funding. Republicans made sure of that
Cut PP funding and only non abortion services will be affected. External funding for abortion will remain intact

Stop funding for birth control and you will see MORE abortions

 

[guno]

If you ever wondered how the Nazis got away with the holocaust look no further than today's radical left. They actually have it in their hate filled minds that only "religious nutters" are horrified at idea of harvesting and selling the body parts of human babies. If it was puppies or embryos of pet lions the idiot left would be marching on Washington. We aren't even talking about indicting the PP executives which is what we should be doing. All we are talking about defunding the carnage and the radical left is still up in arms and calling normal Americans "religious nutters". That's how close to nazism we are drifting.

Dirty ignorant goy , the shoah was perpetrated by filthy subhuman christers. Most of us Jews are Liberal. To even equivocate those two is beyond sanity


Jewish people, who have read the New Testament throughout the history of Christianity, became well aware of the numerous passages of vicious and defamatory anti-Jewish polemic within it. On the other hand, Christians, in general, have been insensitive to the offensive nature of these texts and to the damage that their usage has done to the Jewish people throughout the Common Era. When the Emperor Constantine became a Christian in the fourth century C.E. and installed Christianity as the state religion of the Roman Empire, Jewish people became a primary target of persecution by "The Church". Although the Holocaust, which caused the murderous annihilation of two-thirds of Europe's Jewish population, was in some ways different from previous historical acts of mass persecution and genocide of the Jewish people, it shared the motive of its precursors, the Crusades and Inquisitions, and the many pogroms and expulsions. Each of these events was fueled by anti-Semitism, the hatred of Jewish people, and was aimed at their murder and plunder. The Holocaust distinguished itself from the other events in the scope of its genocidal goals and the fact that it did not offer its victims the "option" of conversion to Christianity – there was no escape from death. An increasing number of Christian scholars and clergy have concluded that the root of anti-Semitism in the Christian world community is ultimately found within the New Testament.
Jews in the New Testament - Key Stage 3 - The Holocaust Explained

 

[JimBowie1958]

It's not murder.

Yeah, that's what Himmler said too.

Do you have a quote of Himmler talking about abortion?

Yeah, he said it sure was a shame he missed getting you, lol.

Piss off Jake the Fake Delegate.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Planned Parenthood gets no federal funding for abortion services
Defunding them will mean the section that provides those services will be all that is left

Defunding their birth contol efforts will only result in MORE abortions

Ohhorse shit.

Money is fungible and giving them money for one purpose frees it up for other purposes by other funds also.

No it isn't
There are strict firewalls on the funding. Republicans made sure of that
Cut PP funding and only non abortion services will be affected. External funding for abortion will remain intact

Stop funding for birth control and you will see MORE abortions

MORE Horse shit! The Democrats flout any laws they want to and provide protection for each other.

roflmao, oh, yeah, the Dems will just bust Planned Parenthood if they crossed that line, lololol.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Dirty ignorant goy , the shoah was perpetrated by filthy subhuman christers. Most of us Jews are Liberal. To even equivocate those two is beyond sanity

You may be a Jew, but you are a hateful small minded bigot against Christians, shit-stain.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are foaming, JB.

 

[JakeStarkey]

It's not murder.

Yeah, that's what Himmler said too.

Do you have a quote of Himmler talking about abortion?

Yeah, he said it sure was a shame he missed getting you, lol. Piss off Jake the Fake Delegate.

Yup, you admit you are lying again. Typical pretend Christian act by you.

 

[JimBowie1958]

[ I guess the senators needed more proof than edited videos made by a bunch of anti-abortion zealots, one whom has a criminal record. Good for them.

You imply that there is a certain amount of evidence of some crime that Planned Parenthood could commit/cause that would convince Democrats to turn on PP.

I don't think that that exists. No matter what PP did, what its history is, or anything else, the Democrats will forgive and ignore anything PP does.

Good Greif this is an organization established by racists to cull the black population as well as Jews and Italians!

And libtards whine about the CBF! roflmao

 

[JimBowie1958]

You are foaming, JB.

You are delusional, Jake the Fake Delegate

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are foaming, JB.

You are delusional, Jake the Fake Delegate

Says the foamer. Since I will be on the Rules Committee, we will make sure your types are not recognized and seated.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Eric, your failed analogies don't work. We have shown you why they don't work, but you refuse to accept your reasoning is not logical, and then try to spin it to your morals.

Let's see...why did you say slavery was not analogous to abortion. Oh, right! Because abortion is legal but slavery is not. But slavery was legal at one time...right (just like unfettered abortion)?

So at one time people accepted that slaves were not quit fully human (just like the unborn) and therefore not deserving of protections (just like the unborn). And why did people eventually come to see Negroes as fully realized human beings?
Because they obviously were! With the Emancipation Proclamation and winning of the Civil War people could no longer deny the truth.
Segments of our society realized a gross moral injustice that no longer could be denied.

And why are people now realizing that a baby in the womb is just as human as the twin that may have exited the birth canal a few seconds before
hand? Because he obviously is!
It would be no more just to kill the latter twin than it would be to let a slave holder kill a slave that displeased him. Whether you see that or not, or will admit to seeing it, is immaterial. It's all true.

It will go the way of other great moral injustices at some point.

I know you believe that. Abortion has been with mankind as long as pregnancy.

About as long as slavery, I expect.

But will not go way.

Taking the lives of others who cannot stop you never goes out of style.
That hardly recommends it, though.

 

[mamooth]

Good Greif this is an organization established by racists to cull the black population as well as Jews and Italians!

Are you lying that way because you're just a brainwashed rube, or is your lie deliberate?

Go on, post your faked quotes, if you must. And then we'll debunk them, and then you'll still make the same dishonest claims. Pro-lifers are not known for honesty.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Eric, your failed analogies don't work. We have shown you why they don't work, but you refuse to accept your reasoning is not logical, and then try to spin it to your morals.

I know you believe that. Abortion has been with mankind as long as pregnancy.

About as long as slavery, I expect.

But will not go way.

Taking the lives of others who cannot stop you never goes out of style.
That hardly recommends it, though.

That might be true if a fetus were a child, so your point is moot.

 

[JakeStarkey]

JimBowie, the supposed pastor, is a born again liar for sure. PP is somehow the child of the KKK and Margaret Sanger.

 

[Jackson]

And the usual USMB rightwing nitwits are seeking to propagate their usual lies and fallacies.

Such as the lie that Federal funds pay for abortions, and the moronic fallacy of comparing Planned Parenthood to 'Nazis.'

How dare they!! Nazis gassed their victims while Planned Parenthood ripped their little victims apart!

 

[rightwinger]

Planned Parenthood gets no federal funding for abortion services
Defunding them will mean the section that provides those services will be all that is left

Defunding their birth contol efforts will only result in MORE abortions

Ohhorse shit.

Money is fungible and giving them money for one purpose frees it up for other purposes by other funds also.

No it isn't
There are strict firewalls on the funding. Republicans made sure of that
Cut PP funding and only non abortion services will be affected. External funding for abortion will remain intact

Stop funding for birth control and you will see MORE abortions

MORE Horse shit! The Democrats flout any laws they want to and provide protection for each other.

roflmao, oh, yeah, the Dems will just bust Planned Parenthood if they crossed that line, lololol.

If they did, Republicans would have found a reason to shut down Planned Parenthood decades ago

 

[rightwinger]

And the usual USMB rightwing nitwits are seeking to propagate their usual lies and fallacies.

Such as the lie that Federal funds pay for abortions, and the moronic fallacy of comparing Planned Parenthood to 'Nazis.'

How dare they!! Nazis gassed their victims while Planned Parenthood ripped their little victims apart!

In your analogy, is it the mother who is the Nazi?

 

[eagle1462010]

Planned Parenthood Summary OpenSecrets

Nice PAC Planned Parent Hood. It pays to support it.

 

[Jackson]

And the usual USMB rightwing nitwits are seeking to propagate their usual lies and fallacies.

Such as the lie that Federal funds pay for abortions, and the moronic fallacy of comparing Planned Parenthood to 'Nazis.'

How dare they!! Nazis gassed their victims while Planned Parenthood ripped their little victims apart!

In your analogy, is it the mother who is the Nazi?

She is sometimes an unwitting accomplice. The Dr is doing the damage.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

I know you believe that. Abortion has been with mankind as long as pregnancy.

About as long as slavery, I expect.

But will not go way.

Taking the lives of others who cannot stop you never goes out of style.
That hardly recommends it, though.

That might be true if a fetus were a child, so your point is moot.

Oh, I understand for your purposes a fetus is not a child.
It has a brain, a central nervous system that reacts to external stimuli, it has a heart and all the other vital organs (just ask Planned Parenthood).
Ultra sound technology shows this "not a child" smiles, blinks and cries in the womb. It kicks. They react to stress and show preferences for certain foods.
Research at the University of Helsinki and Florida shows the fetus recognizes nursery rhymes and familiar songs. Pretty impressive for a "blob of tissue" that isn't a baby or a human being deserving of protection.

Yes. Taking the lives of others who can't fight back never goes out of style, does it.