Senate Is Shameful Beyond Words W/ Thr Stance To Pass Th Patent Bill!

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  1. JimofPennsylvan
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    The Senate will be truly significantly hurting America, significantly diminishing the quality of our culture, if it passes the "Patent" bill which they took a procedural vote on this week. This bill with its historic change giving a patent to the person that is the first to file a patent application as opposed to the person who is the first to invent the idea that is the subject matter of the patent if it becomes law will be an "unjust" law. Fairness and justice calls for giving the legal/patent rights and all the monetary benefits such rights provide to the inventor of an invention not the first to file the legal paperwork on the invention the way the law has been for the over two hundred years of our countries history. Patents have a profound positive effect on American inventors' lives and their families' lives it can bring prosperity for generations, this change to patent law will result in terrible and tragic cases where American inventors and their families will be denied sharing in the monetary benefits that stem from their inventions; members of the Senate may not want to consider this but what they will be in truth doing if they pass this bill is conspiring in the commission of thefts from inventors who lose their rights over their inventions as a result of the change in patent law. Besides the Senate will be taking away from America some of its greatness with their actions here because part of America's greatness is that her laws advance principles and human rights to the maximum extent and this change will be a dramatic rollback in this pursuit!


    It should not be said that the Senate, the House and the President don't have work to do in this area. The American people see how companies that bring new products or services to the marketplace are not infrequently sued for patent infringement and there is an unfairness there because a reasonable person considering all the facts would conclude that the business displayed no bad faith or intention in regards to taking another person's(s') property rights. An obvious resolution which Washington may want to consider is keep the "first to invent" standard for giving patents but as long as a person/business that filed a patent application had no knowledge that another invented or probably invented an invention and that inventor has not gotten a patent or if the patent applicant had this knowledge but the inventor has not pursued commercialization of the invention by seeking a patent for a fair amount of time like six years the patent filer gets a permanent "license to use" the invention. Even if the Senate can't reach legitimate consensuses on improving this patent infringement lawsuit problem, this bill with its "first to file" standard is unjust and shouldn't be enacted into law there isn't even an issue here it is patently obvious to good Americans!
     
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    What kind of star is this "Patent Bill" hitched to, Jim?

    The trouble with some of Obama's stated bills is that in the reams of paper they're printed on, stuff gets in there that should not be there because Congress doesn't have time to read large white papers masquerading as bills. Is the Bill one or two paragraphs, or does it go on and on and on and on like the Health Care bill did?

    Having a Congress that is wise enough to know the difference of parading one good cause to draw in 1500 items that destroy the Citizens Bill of Rights and insuring no passage is better than agreeing to who knows what all Obama is trying to pull.

    Obama's been called, nobody trusts him and his cronies any more, he's done. The Congress is doing their job, and if all they can do is just stop the madness until the American people get to vote on somebody else, if the thought has merit, they can simply pass the short, 1-issue-only bill that does what is right.
     
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    You are right, it's not perfect. But neither is the current system where you can wait literally Years to receive a patten.

    Don't worry the Senate can do what ever they want. It's not getting through the House.

    Obama's Jobs plan is exposed for the Farce it is. He thought he could talk his way out of this mess. He can't, The American People are on to him. They saw him Turn a Joint Session of congress into a Partisan Stump speech, and try to pass of a bill full of massive new spending, Pay offs to Unions, and Promises of Massive new Taxes on the "rich" as a Bi-Partisan Bill. It didn't work.

    Oh the Democrats will play their games, and say look the Republicans are standing in the way of Jobs, But Enough of the American People can no see right through Obama's Games that it is not going to work this time.

    Obama can't run on Hope and Change, He can't run on blaming the Republicans, The American people are going to except nothing less than him explaining his Policies, and Positions and Owning them. If he can not win on his record, He is not going to win.

    Gonna go down as one of the worst leaders we have ever had, and perhaps the most openly Divisive, and Partisan President in our History. Arrogant, Egotistical, and dishonest.

    A real Shame really. I would have been nice to see him deliver on his lofty Promises of Hope and Change. Instead all he has done is make us Hope for a change in 2012.
     
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    Would be very detrimental if it has a chance of passing. Please monitor this and let us know IF it proceeds. Would also like the names of the sponsors...
     
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    You're right, too, Charles Main. We do need a shorter wait for patents, although they need to be computerized, maybe, if it isn't already, to help those who issue the patents take a good approach to this.

    496 Days, 18 Hours left

     
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    The entirety of that system needs to be reformed, starting with the ability to file a patent on an item that you have not, nor plan to, invent. This is just one more nail in the coffin that supports large corporations in massively patenting things as a block to other companies crating rather than to promote creating it themselves.
     
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    Obama could spin flax into gold and you whiners would still whine. Hatred of our president boggles the mind - or is it just loss of power pays for many mouths of discontent? Removing the first this, first that argument will reduce the fog of invention, and if an inventor has been wronged we still have a legal system. You guys would hate the legal system if Obama mentioned it. Sore losers all. Too bad democracy has so little appeal to the right today.

    "The measure would switch the United States from the "first-to-invent" system to the "first-inventor-to-file" system for patent applications. That change would put the U.S. in line with other industrialized countries."

    Read more: Senate OKs patent system overhaul
     
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    Why should we want to be just like other industrialized nations? Try to remember.. Leaders LEAD.
     
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    Yes, because other nations have been leading the world in new technologies for decades now... no wait..ummmm

    You are an idiot of the highest order. Give me one single solitary excuse for an inventor that FIRST created something to have his creation taken away because you got a lawyer first and filed a fucking piece of paper. There is not.



    In your words, Obama could eat a meal of small children on national TV and you worshippers would still lay prostrated on his alter. The worship of our current president boggles the mind.



    Anything this president does for you is holy and untouchable. That is plain sick.
     
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    Well they did it.. Passed by 89 to 9.. Want to know why us "partisians" hate the CRAP out of "bipartisianship".. Because of stuff like this.. Ends up screwing the little guys in favor of the big guys with this "first to file" BS....

    U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote

    No rhyme or reason to the 9 dissenting votes. Probably the only ones that actually read the bill...
     

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