Screw big pharma and their ilk!

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    This is irritating as can be! Here I received an email from John McCain today asking me if I would stand with him. I'll be writing him back as telling him, HELL NO!

    My dad is a long term cancer survivor. Almost twenty years now have passed since he was given a death sentence. God blessed us all and left papa here to be with us for these extra years. He had surgery to remove the cancer filled bladder that another doc had botched on more than a year previously. His survival rate was given 5% back then. Grandma Jane the local health guru put him on a cleansing diet and noted the vitamin supplements he should take to get through this ordeal after the cancerous bladder was removed. Big Pharm wants to take that option of freedom of choice away from all of us. Piss on them and every legislator that is willing to go along with limiting freedom of choice!

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    While you have my sympathy for your Dad's illness -and, sincerely, YAY! that he has fought such a battle - don't dismiss the pharma's completely. Those companies have made huge strides in extending the lives of many, many people. We should never judge on individual cases - no matter how hard it is not to take personal circumstances into account.
     
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    I'll judge them on what they are trying to take away right now and that is our freedom of choice. You cannot replace a healthy lifestyle and eating right or if you are unable to do that take herbs & supplements by simply taking pharmaceutical compounds. To exploit people with chemicals in place of good health practices is absurd and our own personal doctor would agree with that. Do you have any clue what vitamins cost in countries that have adopted CODEX cost?


     
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    his article may be reprinted free of charge provided 1) that there is clear attribution to the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, and 2) that both the OMNS free subscription link http://orthomolecular.org/subscribe.html and also the OMNS archive link Orthomolecular News are included.

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, January 19, 2010
    No Deaths from Vitamins, Minerals, Amino Acids or Herbs
    Poison Control Statistics Prove Supplements' Safety

    (OMNS, January 19, 2010) There was not even one death caused by a dietary supplement in 2008, according to the most recent information collected by the U.S. National Poison Data System. The new 174-page annual report of the American Association of Poison Control Centers, published in the journal Clinical Toxicology, shows zero deaths from multiple vitamins; zero deaths from any of the B vitamins; zero deaths from vitamins A, C, D, or E; and zero deaths from any other vitamin.

    Additionally, there were no deaths whatsoever from any amino acid or herbal product. This means no deaths at all from blue cohosh, echinacea, ginkgo biloba, ginseng, kava kava, St. John's wort, valerian, yohimbe, Asian medicines, ayurvedic medicines, or any other botanical. There were zero deaths from creatine, blue-green algae, glucosamine, chondroitin, melatonin, or any homeopathic remedies.

    Furthermore, there were zero deaths in 2008 from any dietary mineral supplement. This means there were no fatalities from calcium, magnesium, chromium, zinc, colloidal silver, selenium, iron, or multimineral supplements. Two children died as a result of medical use of the antacid sodium bicarbonate. The other "Electrolyte and Mineral" category death was due to a man accidentally drinking sodium hydroxide, a highly toxic degreaser and drain-opener.

    No man, woman or child died from nutritional supplements. Period.

    61 poison centers provide coast-to-coast data for the U.S. National Poison Data System, which is then reviewed by 29 medical and clinical toxicologists. NPDS, the authors write, is "one of the few real-time national surveillance systems in existence, providing a model public health surveillance system for all types of exposures, public health event identification, resilience response and situational awareness tracking."

    Over half of the U.S. population takes daily nutritional supplements. Even if each of those people took only one single tablet daily, that makes 154,000,000 individual doses per day, for a total of over 56 billion doses annually. Since many persons take more than just one vitamin or mineral tablet, actual consumption is considerably higher, and the safety of nutritional supplements is all the more remarkable.

    If nutritional supplements are allegedly so "dangerous," as the FDA and news media so often claim, then where are the bodies?

    Those who wonder if the media are biased against vitamins may consider this: how many television stations, newspapers, magazines, and medical journals have reported that no one dies from nutritional supplements?

    Reference:

    Bronstein AC, Spyker DA, Cantilena LR Jr, Green JL, Rumack BH, Giffin SL. 2008 Annual Report of the American Association of Poison Control Centers' National Poison Data System (NPDS): 26th Annual Report. Clinical Toxicology (2009). 47, 911-1084. The full text article is available for free download at http://www.aapcc.org/dnn/Portals/0/2008annualreport.pdf . Vitamins statistics are found in Table 22B, journal pages 1052-3. Minerals, herbs, amino acids and other supplements are in the same table, pages 1047-8.

    For Further Reading:

    Download any Annual Report of the American Association of Poison Control Centers from 1983-2008 free of charge at Annual Reports

    Nutritional Medicine is Orthomolecular Medicine

    Orthomolecular medicine uses safe, effective nutritional therapy to fight illness. For more information: Welcome To Orthomolecular.org

    The peer-reviewed Orthomolecular Medicine News Service is a non-profit and non-commercial informational resource.

    Editorial Review Board:

    Carolyn Dean, M.D., N.D.
    Damien Downing, M.D.
    Michael Gonzalez, D.Sc., Ph.D.
    Steve Hickey, Ph.D.
    James A. Jackson, PhD
    Bo H. Jonsson, MD, Ph.D
    Thomas Levy, M.D., J.D.
    Jorge R. Miranda-Massari, Pharm.D.
    Erik Paterson, M.D.
    Gert E. Shuitemaker, Ph.D.

    Andrew W. Saul, Ph.D., Editor No Deaths from Vitamins, Minerals, Amino Acids or Herbs


    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, January 21, 2010
    How to Fool All of the People All of the Time:
    US Taxpayers Fund Library Censorship

    (OMNS, January 21, 2010) At a recent emergency meeting of the World Headquarters Of Pharmaceutical Politicians, Educators, and Reporters (WHOPPER):

    "Ladies and gentlemen, we have a slight problem. The public is beginning to complain about how the US National Library of Medicine censors nutritional research. This is embarrassing, as the last thing we want is for taxpayers to question how their tax money is spent. It is none of their damn business. But it is definitely a matter of business, big business, for WHOPPER.

    "Up until now, when people write to complain about journal censorship ( custserv@nlm.nih.gov ) , we've managed to get away with NLM sending out this form letter reply: 'The National Library of Medicine (NLM) uses a 15-person advisory committee of health professionals and librarians to recommend titles to be indexed. This committee uses guidelines, available to the public on our website, such as scientific merit, importance of the content to the scientific community, and editorial processes to assist it in making recommendations. Additional information about journal selection is available at MEDLINE® Journal Selection Fact Sheet '

    "The beauty of this is that we do not have to follow the published guidelines. We control the National Library of Medicine so skillfully that we got Medline to index publications that are not medical journals at all. We are enormously proud to say that Medline indexes Time magazine, Newsweek, US News and World Report, and Consumer Reports. But not the peer-reviewed Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine, continuously published for more than 40 years, nor the peer-reviewed journal Fluoride, also published for decades.

    "Yes, there are about 2,000 indexed articles on Medline/PubMed just from Time magazine. Here: see for yourself what a great job we've done. Go to Medline ( PubMed home ) and do your own two-second search for "time magazine". Then try Newsweek: over 1,900 Medline responses. US News and World Report: over 2,000 articles indexed by Medline. Medline also indexes several hundred articles from Consumer Reports. Check and see. It is quickest if you search Medline/PubMed by putting quotes around the magazine's name.

    "Medline even indexes two dozen articles from Reader's Digest. (search for "read dig.")

    "Isn't this terrific?

    "While it is embarrassingly obvious that these are not medical journals, there is nothing the public can do about it. Medline indexes what its Literature Selection Technical Review Committee tells it to. The committee's members are all appointed; none are elected. They meet behind closed doors. No public input is accepted. (1) No taxpayer can communicate with them or attend hearings, because there aren't any hearings.

    "Quite a system, isn't it? But hey, even Al Capone knew that a picked jury guarantees the verdict. We have a good little racket going here, and we are not about to change it for 150 million silly vitamin-pill-popping voters. They will read what we decide they should read.

    "Some WHOPPER members are concerned that, after this story broke on the internet, a few nutritional crackpots are writing to their Congressperson and Senators and demanding action. We understand that questions being asked include, 'Why is there journal censorship in a public library? Why the secrecy? Why is an unelected 'advisory' committee making decisions, in private, about what the public has access to on the National Library of Medicine's tax-funded Medline service? Should a select small group, an elite, control a public library in the Land of the Free?'

    "Now to reassure you: if you are worried about pressure from the House and the Senate, relax. The people have better things to do with their time than to really push their elected representatives for action on something as small potatoes as the First Amendment. It is true that American patriot Samuel Adams said, 'When arbitrary rulers are put over them, when government is secret, the people become alarmed.'

    "But don't worry. He's dead."

    References:

    (1) Correspondence received from Medline: "If the (journal review) meeting were open to the public, word could circulate about a committee recommendation before a final determination was made . . . While names of review committee members are public information, NLM never discloses names of primary and secondary reviewers for specific journals. Observers could obtain that information and it could affect the openness of discussion and might result in contact with specific reviewers after the meeting. It is NLM's policy to prevent unnecessary contact with specific reviewers."

    For free access to over 600 full-text papers from the Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine:
    Orthomolecular.org - Journal Of Orthomolecular Medicine - Archives

    For access to Fluoride's free online archive:
    http://www.fluorideresearch.org/backissues.pdf

    Nutritional Medicine is Orthomolecular Medicine

    Orthomolecular medicine uses safe, effective nutritional therapy to fight illness. For more information: Welcome To Orthomolecular.org

    The peer-reviewed Orthomolecular Medicine News Service is a non-profit and non-commercial informational resource.

    Editorial Review Board:

    Carolyn Dean, M.D., N.D.
    Damien Downing, M.D.
    Michael Gonzalez, D.Sc., Ph.D.
    Steve Hickey, Ph.D.
    James A. Jackson, PhD
    Bo H. Jonsson, MD, Ph.D
    Thomas Levy, M.D., J.D.
    Jorge R. Miranda-Massari, Pharm.D.
    Erik Paterson, M.D.
    Gert E. Shuitemaker, Ph.D.

    Andrew W. Saul, Ph.D., Editor and contact person.
     
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    Doctors object to UN proposal to ban Thimerosal in vaccines...

    U.S. doctors fight U.N. ban on preservative in vaccines
    Monday, December 17, 2012 - In a move likely to stoke an already raging debate over the safety of the vaccines routinely given to children, America’s largest organization for pediatricians is strongly objecting to a proposal by the United Nations to ban a mercury-containing preservative from the world’s vaccine supply.

     

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