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    Editor's note: Given the distractions and confusion caused by social media trolls we cannot confirm the authorship of this opinion piece, but we find its analysis interesting and at times insightful.

    Zdravstvuj, I am one of those people you read about. We are phantoms to some who think knowledge is stable and real, we know better. First a little history. When the online comment and communications boards began most people had no idea of the power and influence they would eventually create. AOL chat was an early participant as was Yahoo, it was often childish and its format not open to propaganda and idea dissemination. Anyone remember Yahoo answers, it too was occasionally interesting, but the audience wasn't wide enough and we needed better directing and focusing, we needed to target an audience that would believe or even just doubt.

    But something else was going on and had been going for a long time. Think Tanks (TT) formed a model for the control of information. RAND and Hudson began after WWII as bases of knowledge and policy, who could have predicated what they would eventually become? How thought itself could be transformed. Propaganda now had a platform, no longer just opinion, no longer on the sidelines, now the Think Tank confirmed whatever it was they were paid to confirm. Agnotology had a sponsor. Smoking bad? Global warming real? Doubt everything. Well not everything only those issues that challenged power.

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    We did not create Trump or Kushner or Miller or Kavanaugh or Parscale or Dobbs or Barr or Hannity, you did, your system did, and so while we use them they represent the amorality of your world. Winning at all cost is American as apple pie. Love your idioms. Some claim we are amoral. Listen people, many are amoral, Trump is amoral, do you really think he believes or thinks deeply about anything? Twitter is so much fun. Look at Steve Bannon, he too is part of the gaming of the American people, and folks should democrats ever get their message heard, we will twist that too and soon republicans will be looked on as really caring for America and Americans. You know, the values issue, wins every time. Notice we are already doing that with the ACA, aka Obamacare. We know where to focus, Democrats don't. Cultural location and religious belief - rural remote - are areas of dissemination, focus areas in other words. Just a matter of time and soon your nation will be like ours, controlled by the few. In many ways it already is, but one must not see that for the leader must promise the promised land and always strive to pull the wool over your eyes. Sorry, couldn't resist.

    Footnote: We must be careful should republicans and Trump destroy too many of the values and policies that have made America great. Americans could then return to realpolitik, a place where commonsense rules over ideology and created reality. Another FDR could again make America great as Reagan promoted even though he was created by the words of corporate propagandists. 2020 here we come. Good luck America.

    Editor Note: The Russian troll's confession may be a spoof, we do not know. If 'they' return to comment we'll be open to their opinion. America is in a state of divided incredulity, but so long as the economy isn't crashing, anything goes. Trump rallies appear to be more useful tools for control than many had thought. Lies are truths, promises never kept, but the show goes on and on.

    Russian trolls: Here are 2,752 Russian Twitter accounts that trolled you

    The show goes on: Trump ad contagion spreads on Facebook, infects Google

    Or not: Putin signs Runet law to cut Russia's internet off from rest of world | ZDNet

    "The function of law and theology are the same: to keep the poor from taking back by violence what the rich have stolen by cunning." Robert Anton Wilson
     
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    It's amazing. Russian trolls are not to be believed until one of them says something we want to hear.

    The authenticity is highly doubtful
     
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    I dont think that its authentic. But it rings true.Very clever.
     
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    Because it's telling you what you want to hear. It's not clever.
     
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    Nope. Its something that we already know is happening. In a UK context the same people who voted for brexit seem to be the same types who support Trump. They have tapped into something and have persuaded folk to vote against their better interests.
     
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    You guys will stop at nothing. Blame the other side for what you yourself do.

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    How convenient.
     
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    What is this fiction piece doing in the CDZ?
     
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    So the ANSWER and justice for Russian Trolling is to give yet another Russian troll a forum to spew on USMB???? Very clever... You've now given a Russian troll MORE VIEWS than most of those 2761 ads brought in...

    It's not clear which link this long "in your face" Russian rant came from -- but I did take almost a half hour to download to the list of 2753 Russian Ads from one of the Vox links... I cruised thru about 1 calendar month of "russian ads" and here is an example of how MOST of them look....

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    NOTE: The number of views is 78... The number of CLICKS is exactly THREE !!!!

    What did it cost some Russian to place it? 108 Rubles. Or about $1.50... That's 50 cents for every click. You get a 1000 times that for a click bait ad of a half anaconda -- half gator... How many folks do you think SHOWED UP for that fake rally? The number is less than THREE...

    SO -- in comparison to the SUM TOTAL of all this masturbation by Russian trolls, their exposure was SEVERAL MILLION TIMES LESS than the GPS FUSION/Hillary/Steele "russian dossier -- which was also a product of professional Russian trolls.. Only THOSE TROLLS were employed by the Russian State Intelligence services directly......
     
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    Excellent analysis.
     
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