"Russian aggression" in Ukraine

[Stratford57]

Today, August 28, 2014 in Kiev over 500 hundred people are protesting and the amount of the people is increasing. Their main demand is an impeachment of Poroshenko, the Ukrainian president (and it’s not even been hundred days of his presidency). The relatives of Ukrainian army soldiers are demanding their sons, husbands and brothers back home because thousands of them are already killed or just missing after a week of numerous and successful contra-attacks of Donbass Territorial Army. And exactly at the same time Poroshenko has announced: “Russia invaded Ukraine” (as usually without showing any proof except some pictures which could be taken anywhere and at any time). Doing that he pushed the demands about his impeachment to the background, distracting the attention from his own failures. By his previous declarations, Russian troops have been already fighting in Donbass for months, so – what’s new??


David Stulik, a representative of EU in Ukraine also made an announcement about “Russian aggression in Ukraine”. EU called that “his own opinion” at EU’s official page on Facebook. At the same time OSCE representatives, who are monitoring the situation at the Russian-Ukrainian border every day, confirmed: no trespassing the border from Russian side. (Meanwhile over 40 Ukrainian soldiers crossed Russian border today, claiming they were abandoned by their commanders and asked for help).


So, if there truly is Russian aggression in Ukraine, then quite a few questions appear:


1. Why 800 thousand people from Donbass came to Russia as refugees (these numbers are provided by OSCE)?

2. Where are the official satellite pictures of Russian troops locations on Ukrainian territory?

3. Why are there no protests in “occupied ”Crimea against Russian aggression?

4. Why are Ukrainians protesting against their president and government and those protests are growing every day?

5.Why the majority of Russian citizens are not demanding to stop Russian aggression in Ukraine (sorry, there was actually a protest on the Red Square today, with 1 (one) person with a placard).

6 .Poroshenko promised to finish his “Anti-terror operation” (which is de-facto terror operation against all Donbass population) within a few days, where is the Victory Parade?

7. One day of war costs $7 million, where the does the money come from?


Looks like Poroshenko badly needs to invent something to slow down recent success of Donbass Territorial army before they capture Kiev and start judging all war criminals including himself. A month ago shooting Malaysian Boeing helped him a lot (in the link below you can see what Malaysian experts think about it), this time he had to invent something different…

US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft New Straits Times

In any case Donbass is a historical Russia territory, the people whom junta is killing there have Russian roots, they would be happy if Russians came and saved them from genocide. Meanwhile on Ukrainian side there are Polish, Lithuanians, Georgians, private American military companies fighting from the very beginning of this ugly war started by the Kiev Junta against Donbass people.

 

[1776]

Putin will crush anyone inside Russian territory which now includes Crimea if they protest anything he does. Does Gulag ring a bell?

Right now Russia is paying off anyone in Crimea that opposes them and if that doesn't work then the hammer comes down via violence.

The same thing is going on inside eastern Ukraine where Russian criminals, special forces, spies, etc have been parading around as "locals" mad about the government in Kyiv. The real locals in eastern Ukraine don't like these outsiders terrorizing them and killing anyone that speaks out. Of course the Russian media isn't going to cover this because they too don't want to be beaten up or die at the hands of Putin's goons.

This is the same actions Hitler did in the build-up of WW2 during invasions of weaker neighbors terrorizing them and his own people into submission and obeying his orders.

The only option is for someone to kill Putin, that might have to be one of his own once they realize the monster they have in charge.

 

[Richard-H]

Today, August 28, 2014 in Kiev over 500 hundred people are protesting and the amount of the people is increasing. Their main demand is an impeachment of Poroshenko, the Ukrainian president (and it’s not even been hundred days of his presidency). The relatives of Ukrainian army soldiers are demanding their sons, husbands and brothers back home because thousands of them are already killed or just missing after a week of numerous and successful contra-attacks of Donbass Territorial Army. And exactly at the same time Poroshenko has announced: “Russia invaded Ukraine” (as usually without showing any proof except some pictures which could be taken anywhere and at any time). Doing that he pushed the demands about his impeachment to the background, distracting the attention from his own failures. By his previous declarations, Russian troops have been already fighting in Donbass for months, so – what’s new??


David Stulik, a representative of EU in Ukraine also made an announcement about “Russian aggression in Ukraine”. EU called that “his own opinion” at EU’s official page on Facebook. At the same time OSCE representatives, who are monitoring the situation at the Russian-Ukrainian border every day, confirmed: no trespassing the border from Russian side. (Meanwhile over 40 Ukrainian soldiers crossed Russian border today, claiming they were abandoned by their commanders and asked for help).


So, if there truly is Russian aggression in Ukraine, then quite a few questions appear:


1. Why 800 thousand people from Donbass came to Russia as refugees (these numbers are provided by OSCE)?

2. Where are the official satellite pictures of Russian troops locations on Ukrainian territory?

3. Why are there no protests in “occupied ”Crimea against Russian aggression?

4. Why are Ukrainians protesting against their president and government and those protests are growing every day?

5.Why the majority of Russian citizens are not demanding to stop Russian aggression in Ukraine (sorry, there was actually a protest on the Red Square today, with 1 (one) person with a placard).

6 .Poroshenko promised to finish his “Anti-terror operation” (which is de-facto terror operation against all Donbass population) within a few days, where is the Victory Parade?

7. One day of war costs $7 million, where the does the money come from?


Looks like Poroshenko badly needs to invent something to slow down recent success of Donbass Territorial army before they capture Kiev and start judging all war criminals including himself. A month ago shooting Malaysian Boeing helped him a lot (in the link below you can see what Malaysian experts think about it), this time he had to invent something different…

US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft New Straits Times

In any case Donbass is a historical Russia territory, the people whom junta is killing there have Russian roots, they would be happy if Russians came and saved them from genocide. Meanwhile on Ukrainian side there are Polish, Lithuanians, Georgians, private American military companies fighting from the very beginning of this ugly war started by the Kiev Junta against Donbass people.

Wow, it's interesting the Malaysian news media is reporting that the evidence points to Ukrainian jets shooting down MH17. I'd think that they'd be the ones most interested in finding out the truth.

I guess that's why American media barely mentions this issue anymore.

 

[Stratford57]

This is my response to a person "...an all the things" who posted :" The same thing is going on inside eastern Ukraine where Russian criminals, special forces, spies, etc have been parading around as "locals" mad about the government in Kyiv. The real locals in eastern Ukraine don't like these outsiders terrorizing them and killing anyone that speaks out."

Millions of people from SE Ukraine (where I’m from) are dreaming about becoming a part of Russia again (we were a part of Russia till 1917, when Lenin joined us with Ukraine and and call that "creation" Ukrainian Soviet Republic) and are fighting with Nazis for that possible privilege now. We (the ones who are not Nazis or brainwashed by local media, which to me is the same) would love Putin to bring his troops and to help us, but he has not yet, unfortunately. If he had the war would be over long time ago.

About Crimea. Have you ever been there? I’ve been a lot of times. And every time everybody there would tell me: we want to be with Russia again and we will be. An annexation of Crimea occurred when Khrushchev “moved” it from Russian Federation to Ukraine. In March 2014 a huge majority of Crimean residents were happy to go back to Russia and asked Putin “never to give them to anybody else again”. I know many people from Crimea who confirm that. If Russia did not return Crimea, Ukrainians would do the same there like in Donbass now. A couple of weeks ago we talked to a family of refugees from Lugansk, who confirmed: Ukrainians are every day shooting the civilians with Grads, Uragans, apply phosphor and cassette bombs, tearing women, children, seniors into pieces, ruining houses and infrastructure to ground level, keeping them without food, water, gas, electricity, medicine and doing even more evil things to civilians than Germans did during World War 2. And it’s not Donbass people who came to bomb Kiev, it’s Kiev who came to Donbass to exterminate those who did not want to support the new Nazis’ regime.

We (the huge majority of SE) love Putin and dream to have him our president, however saying that in Ukraine more than likely will end you up in prison as a minimum.

 

[Stratford57]

Yes, Mr. Richard-H, it really does. May be that explains why in the USA or Europe we don't hear anything about investigation of the Boeing crash any more. See, the USA officials cover Ukraine's butt regardless what it does (with the current junta as government/president). Who is now reading the black boxes? Britain. Who is Britain to the United States? We know the answer. To me to ask Britain to investigate that accident, where the USA have their interest, is the same as to ask Belarus to investigate smth, where Russia has its interest.

 

[1776]

Go stand in line for your toilet paper, shitstain Russian.

This is my response to a person "...an all the things" who posted :" The same thing is going on inside eastern Ukraine where Russian criminals, special forces, spies, etc have been parading around as "locals" mad about the government in Kyiv. The real locals in eastern Ukraine don't like these outsiders terrorizing them and killing anyone that speaks out."

Millions of people from SE Ukraine (where I’m from) are dreaming about becoming a part of Russia again (we were a part of Russia till 1917, when Lenin joined us with Ukraine and and call that "creation" Ukrainian Soviet Republic) and are fighting with Nazis for that possible privilege now. We (the ones who are not Nazis or brainwashed by local media, which to me is the same) would love Putin to bring his troops and to help us, but he has not yet, unfortunately. If he had the war would be over long time ago.

About Crimea. Have you ever been there? I’ve been a lot of times. And every time everybody there would tell me: we want to be with Russia again and we will be. An annexation of Crimea occurred when Khrushchev “moved” it from Russian Federation to Ukraine. In March 2014 a huge majority of Crimean residents were happy to go back to Russia and asked Putin “never to give them to anybody else again”. I know many people from Crimea who confirm that. If Russia did not return Crimea, Ukrainians would do the same there like in Donbass now. A couple of weeks ago we talked to a family of refugees from Lugansk, who confirmed: Ukrainians are every day shooting the civilians with Grads, Uragans, apply phosphor and cassette bombs, tearing women, children, seniors into pieces, ruining houses and infrastructure to ground level, keeping them without food, water, gas, electricity, medicine and doing even more evil things to civilians than Germans did during World War 2. And it’s not Donbass people who came to bomb Kiev, it’s Kiev who came to Donbass to exterminate those who did not want to support the new Nazis’ regime.

We (the huge majority of SE) love Putin and dream to have him our president, however saying that in Ukraine more than likely will end you up in prison as a minimum.

 

[Stratford57]

Go stand in line for your toilet paper, shitstain Russian.

Yes, I am proud to be Russian, thanks for noticing it.

 

[Aex_alex_alex_777]

Take a look at how Russian propaganda works to trigger a war in Ukraine:

 

[waltky]

Big ol' ammo dump blows up in Ukraine...

Ukraine says ammo depot explosions huge blow to combat capability
September 28, 2017 - The destruction of two ammunition depots this year have dealt the biggest blow to Ukraine’s combat capability since the start of its separatist conflict, security and military officials said on Thursday.

Massive explosions at a military depot in the Vynnytsya region, 270 km (170 miles) west of Kiev, forced the authorities to evacuate 24,000 people on Wednesday. Another large depot was destroyed in March. “The country has suffered the biggest blow to our fighting capacity since the start of the war,” the secretary of the Ukrainian Security and Defence Council, Oleksandr Turchynov, told journalists. Earlier the defense ministry said the Vynnytsya depot contained 83,000 tonnes of ammunition.

It is not clear if the explosions were accidents or sabotage, either of which would underscore poor security systems at the bases. “There are many violations of fire and air safety at our arsenals. And these are the consequences,” Turchynov said. “We’ve shown that we’re not capable of protecting our strategic arsenals.” Prosecutors have launched an investigation into the Vynnytsya blaze, which the authorities have said may have been set off deliberately, blaming “external factors”.

Chief military prosecutor Anatoly Matios said the site’s alarm system was out of order and its security team lacked sufficient guards and up-to-date equipment. “The main issue which must be addressed is the personnel problem of guards whose salaries are very low, and in general security is carried out by elderly people, who certainly don’t have hawk-eye vision,” Matios told journalists.

There have been four large fires at ammunition and weapons depots since late 2015 - an additional drain on Ukraine’s military, which has been fighting Russia-backed separatists in eastern regions for more than three years. “It will be hard for the government to restore the military reserves that have destroyed by explosions over the past two years. This is hundreds of billions of hryvnias,” Matios said.

Thousands evacuated in Ukraine as ammunition depot explodes

See also:

30,000 evacuated after Ukrainian ammunition depot explodes
[i|Sept. 27, 2017 -- Over 30,000 people were evacuated Wednesday after massive explosions and a fire struck a military ammunition depot in central Ukraine.[/i]

Blasts at the defense ministry's arsenal at Kaynivka, about 170 miles west of the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv, began late Tuesday. Ukrainian Security Services spokeswoman Olena Hitlyanska said Wednesday that investigators are treating the incident as an act of sabotage. Ukraine's National Police, about 600 National Guardsmen and hundreds of police officers from surrounding communities led the evacuation from towns in a six-mile radius of the explosion. About 1,200 firefighters are involved in extinguishing the fire. Buses and trains were used to remove civilians from the area, and rail traffic in the area was later rerouted. The military unit overseeing the arsenal was also closed as personnel left.

A report by the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine noted that nearly 22,000 civilians and 500 families of servicemen were evacuated during the night. Nearby roads and rail lines were closed after the evacuation, as was air traffic within a 30-mile radius of the blast. Power and gas lines to local towns were cut off, the Kyiv Post reported Wednesday. No injuries were initially reported.

The continuing wave of explosions broke windows in the town of Kalynivka administration building. Witnesses said the sound of the blasts could be heard in Kiev. Zoryan Shkiryak, and adviser to the Ukraine's Interior Minister, commented that the incident was an example of "Russian sabotage," noting that it was the seventh fire at the arsenal. He added that a government investigation will be organized.

30,000 evacuated after Ukrainian ammunition depot explodes

 

[Eugene]

Actually ammo ware houses burn and explode regularly in Ukraine. It is done to hide facts of theft. Common practice for deeply corrupted state.

 

[Stratford57]

Big ol' ammo dump blows up in Ukraine...

Ukraine says ammo depot explosions huge blow to combat capability
September 28, 2017 - The destruction of two ammunition depots this year have dealt the biggest blow to Ukraine’s combat capability since the start of its separatist conflict, security and military officials said on Thursday.

Massive explosions at a military depot in the Vynnytsya region, 270 km (170 miles) west of Kiev, forced the authorities to evacuate 24,000 people on Wednesday. Another large depot was destroyed in March. “The country has suffered the biggest blow to our fighting capacity since the start of the war,” the secretary of the Ukrainian Security and Defence Council, Oleksandr Turchynov, told journalists. Earlier the defense ministry said the Vynnytsya depot contained 83,000 tonnes of ammunition.

It is not clear if the explosions were accidents or sabotage, either of which would underscore poor security systems at the bases. “There are many violations of fire and air safety at our arsenals. And these are the consequences,” Turchynov said. “We’ve shown that we’re not capable of protecting our strategic arsenals.” Prosecutors have launched an investigation into the Vynnytsya blaze, which the authorities have said may have been set off deliberately, blaming “external factors”.

Chief military prosecutor Anatoly Matios said the site’s alarm system was out of order and its security team lacked sufficient guards and up-to-date equipment. “The main issue which must be addressed is the personnel problem of guards whose salaries are very low, and in general security is carried out by elderly people, who certainly don’t have hawk-eye vision,” Matios told journalists.

There have been four large fires at ammunition and weapons depots since late 2015 - an additional drain on Ukraine’s military, which has been fighting Russia-backed separatists in eastern regions for more than three years. “It will be hard for the government to restore the military reserves that have destroyed by explosions over the past two years. This is hundreds of billions of hryvnias,” Matios said.

Thousands evacuated in Ukraine as ammunition depot explodes

See also:

30,000 evacuated after Ukrainian ammunition depot explodes
[i|Sept. 27, 2017 -- Over 30,000 people were evacuated Wednesday after massive explosions and a fire struck a military ammunition depot in central Ukraine.[/i]

Blasts at the defense ministry's arsenal at Kaynivka, about 170 miles west of the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv, began late Tuesday. Ukrainian Security Services spokeswoman Olena Hitlyanska said Wednesday that investigators are treating the incident as an act of sabotage. Ukraine's National Police, about 600 National Guardsmen and hundreds of police officers from surrounding communities led the evacuation from towns in a six-mile radius of the explosion. About 1,200 firefighters are involved in extinguishing the fire. Buses and trains were used to remove civilians from the area, and rail traffic in the area was later rerouted. The military unit overseeing the arsenal was also closed as personnel left.

A report by the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine noted that nearly 22,000 civilians and 500 families of servicemen were evacuated during the night. Nearby roads and rail lines were closed after the evacuation, as was air traffic within a 30-mile radius of the blast. Power and gas lines to local towns were cut off, the Kyiv Post reported Wednesday. No injuries were initially reported.

The continuing wave of explosions broke windows in the town of Kalynivka administration building. Witnesses said the sound of the blasts could be heard in Kiev. Zoryan Shkiryak, and adviser to the Ukraine's Interior Minister, commented that the incident was an example of "Russian sabotage," noting that it was the seventh fire at the arsenal. He added that a government investigation will be organized.

30,000 evacuated after Ukrainian ammunition depot explodes

Since the 2014 coup in Ukraine, the new Ukrainian rulers blame Russia for everything which goes wrong in their corrupt country [which is just about everything] because otherwise they had to admit it was their own faults. Of course, nobody bothers to present any sane evidence of those accusations.

Compare to Democrats and RINOs in USA: they now keep blaming Russia to distract the public opinion from their own corruption. And again: without any sane proof, just a lot of words.

Everything becomes clear with the help of one small fact: Kiev junta and American Democrats and RINOs have been controlled by the same people: Soros and his Deep State buddies.

Records: Soros Fund Execs Funded Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, John McCain, John Kasich, Lindsey Graham in 2016 - Breitbart

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Today, August 28, 2014 in Kiev over 500 hundred people are protesting and the amount of the people is increasing. Their main demand is an impeachment of Poroshenko, the Ukrainian president (and it’s not even been hundred days of his presidency). The relatives of Ukrainian army soldiers are demanding their sons, husbands and brothers back home because thousands of them are already killed or just missing after a week of numerous and successful contra-attacks of Donbass Territorial Army. And exactly at the same time Poroshenko has announced: “Russia invaded Ukraine” (as usually without showing any proof except some pictures which could be taken anywhere and at any time). Doing that he pushed the demands about his impeachment to the background, distracting the attention from his own failures. By his previous declarations, Russian troops have been already fighting in Donbass for months, so – what’s new??


David Stulik, a representative of EU in Ukraine also made an announcement about “Russian aggression in Ukraine”. EU called that “his own opinion” at EU’s official page on Facebook. At the same time OSCE representatives, who are monitoring the situation at the Russian-Ukrainian border every day, confirmed: no trespassing the border from Russian side. (Meanwhile over 40 Ukrainian soldiers crossed Russian border today, claiming they were abandoned by their commanders and asked for help).


So, if there truly is Russian aggression in Ukraine, then quite a few questions appear:


1. Why 800 thousand people from Donbass came to Russia as refugees (these numbers are provided by OSCE)?

2. Where are the official satellite pictures of Russian troops locations on Ukrainian territory?

3. Why are there no protests in “occupied ”Crimea against Russian aggression?

4. Why are Ukrainians protesting against their president and government and those protests are growing every day?

5.Why the majority of Russian citizens are not demanding to stop Russian aggression in Ukraine (sorry, there was actually a protest on the Red Square today, with 1 (one) person with a placard).

6 .Poroshenko promised to finish his “Anti-terror operation” (which is de-facto terror operation against all Donbass population) within a few days, where is the Victory Parade?

7. One day of war costs $7 million, where the does the money come from?


Looks like Poroshenko badly needs to invent something to slow down recent success of Donbass Territorial army before they capture Kiev and start judging all war criminals including himself. A month ago shooting Malaysian Boeing helped him a lot (in the link below you can see what Malaysian experts think about it), this time he had to invent something different…

US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft New Straits Times

In any case Donbass is a historical Russia territory, the people whom junta is killing there have Russian roots, they would be happy if Russians came and saved them from genocide. Meanwhile on Ukrainian side there are Polish, Lithuanians, Georgians, private American military companies fighting from the very beginning of this ugly war started by the Kiev Junta against Donbass people.

Chickenhawk Kiev

Does The Ukraine have a draft? Any country that doesn't draft all healthy males at 18 can't be taken seriously. It will either lose its war or get bailed out by playing victim and begging other countries to sacrifice their own sons and money to fight a war it itself provoked.

 

[anotherlife]

The Ukraine shouldn't draft some national army. The Ukraine should stop at territorial armies, never national. The Ukraine is not a nation state.

 

[anotherlife]

Today, August 28, 2014 in Kiev over 500 hundred people are protesting and the amount of the people is increasing. Their main demand is an impeachment of Poroshenko, the Ukrainian president (and it’s not even been hundred days of his presidency). The relatives of Ukrainian army soldiers are demanding their sons, husbands and brothers back home because thousands of them are already killed or just missing after a week of numerous and successful contra-attacks of Donbass Territorial Army. And exactly at the same time Poroshenko has announced: “Russia invaded Ukraine” (as usually without showing any proof except some pictures which could be taken anywhere and at any time). Doing that he pushed the demands about his impeachment to the background, distracting the attention from his own failures. By his previous declarations, Russian troops have been already fighting in Donbass for months, so – what’s new??


David Stulik, a representative of EU in Ukraine also made an announcement about “Russian aggression in Ukraine”. EU called that “his own opinion” at EU’s official page on Facebook. At the same time OSCE representatives, who are monitoring the situation at the Russian-Ukrainian border every day, confirmed: no trespassing the border from Russian side. (Meanwhile over 40 Ukrainian soldiers crossed Russian border today, claiming they were abandoned by their commanders and asked for help).


So, if there truly is Russian aggression in Ukraine, then quite a few questions appear:


1. Why 800 thousand people from Donbass came to Russia as refugees (these numbers are provided by OSCE)?

2. Where are the official satellite pictures of Russian troops locations on Ukrainian territory?

3. Why are there no protests in “occupied ”Crimea against Russian aggression?

4. Why are Ukrainians protesting against their president and government and those protests are growing every day?

5.Why the majority of Russian citizens are not demanding to stop Russian aggression in Ukraine (sorry, there was actually a protest on the Red Square today, with 1 (one) person with a placard).

6 .Poroshenko promised to finish his “Anti-terror operation” (which is de-facto terror operation against all Donbass population) within a few days, where is the Victory Parade?

7. One day of war costs $7 million, where the does the money come from?


Looks like Poroshenko badly needs to invent something to slow down recent success of Donbass Territorial army before they capture Kiev and start judging all war criminals including himself. A month ago shooting Malaysian Boeing helped him a lot (in the link below you can see what Malaysian experts think about it), this time he had to invent something different…

US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft New Straits Times

In any case Donbass is a historical Russia territory, the people whom junta is killing there have Russian roots, they would be happy if Russians came and saved them from genocide. Meanwhile on Ukrainian side there are Polish, Lithuanians, Georgians, private American military companies fighting from the very beginning of this ugly war started by the Kiev Junta against Donbass people.

Chickenhawk Kiev

Does The Ukraine have a draft? Any country that doesn't draft all healthy males at 18 can't be taken seriously. It will either lose its war or get bailed out by playing victim and begging other countries to sacrifice their own sons and money to fight a war it itself provoked.

You mean cannon fodders?

 

[Stratford57]

The Ukraine is not a nation state.

Ukraine has been artificially created on historical lands of many nations: Russian, Hungarian, Polish, Romanian, etc. But official Kiev wants to make Ukrainians from all those nations and to use only one language: Ukrainian:

newly enacted Ukrainian law on education places restrictions on the use of minority languages in Ukraine.
Hungary is on the warpath against Ukraine’s education law

I guess, sooner or later they will start blaming Russia for that too.

“We continue to regard as shameful and outrageous the new Education Act, which drastically restricts the access of minorities, including the Hungarian national minority, to native language teaching in a manner that makes that practically impossible from the age of 10 and is incompatible with European values and regulations”, Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade of Hungary Péter Szijjártó stressed.
Our duty is to protect the Hungarian people

Hungary says Ukraine’s new school law hurts minority rights
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...555caaeb8dc_story.html?utm_term=.e2848ba3b10e

Hungary's Minister of Foreign Affairs has announced that his country will block any Ukrainian steps within the European Union after Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has signed a notorious education law that critics say will infringe on the rights of ethnic minorities.
Hungary on Ukrainian education law: "This will be painful for Ukraine"

 

[anotherlife]

The Ukraine is not a nation state.

Ukraine has been artificially created on historical lands of many nations: Russian, Hungarian, Polish, Romanian, etc. But official Kiev wants to make Ukrainians from all those nations and to use only one language: Ukrainian:

newly enacted Ukrainian law on education places restrictions on the use of minority languages in Ukraine.
Hungary is on the warpath against Ukraine’s education law

I guess, sooner or later they will start blaming Russia for that too.

“We continue to regard as shameful and outrageous the new Education Act, which drastically restricts the access of minorities, including the Hungarian national minority, to native language teaching in a manner that makes that practically impossible from the age of 10 and is incompatible with European values and regulations”, Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade of Hungary Péter Szijjártó stressed.
Our duty is to protect the Hungarian people

Hungary says Ukraine’s new school law hurts minority rights
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...555caaeb8dc_story.html?utm_term=.e2848ba3b10e

Hungary's Minister of Foreign Affairs has announced that his country will block any Ukrainian steps within the European Union after Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has signed a notorious education law that critics say will infringe on the rights of ethnic minorities.
Hungary on Ukrainian education law: "This will be painful for Ukraine"

This is an interesting dynamics. Before post Soviet Ukraine switched to western orientation, there was no big education problem there. Now that they have switched to Western European orientation, they have alienated the one ally that they used to have in the European Union. And in the same time, they gave good reason for Russian border modifications. I think the best would be at this stage is that a few days before the Ukraine will switch back to Russian orientation, the European Union annexes the lands that were Poland and Hungary in 1939. But the secret groups that control the EU will probably do different things.

 

[Camp]

Imagine if a law was passed in America that allowed individual public schools to reject English as the primary language and allow them to teach Spanish, Arabic, etc. as the primary and main language to be taught in the public school. How would that go over with Americans?
Ukraine is doing the same thing all countries do. They allow citizens to learn any language they want but want everyone to speak and be educated in the native language.

 

[Stratford57]

The Ukraine is not a nation state.

Ukraine has been artificially created on historical lands of many nations: Russian, Hungarian, Polish, Romanian, etc. But official Kiev wants to make Ukrainians from all those nations and to use only one language: Ukrainian:

newly enacted Ukrainian law on education places restrictions on the use of minority languages in Ukraine.
Hungary is on the warpath against Ukraine’s education law

I guess, sooner or later they will start blaming Russia for that too.

“We continue to regard as shameful and outrageous the new Education Act, which drastically restricts the access of minorities, including the Hungarian national minority, to native language teaching in a manner that makes that practically impossible from the age of 10 and is incompatible with European values and regulations”, Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade of Hungary Péter Szijjártó stressed.
Our duty is to protect the Hungarian people

Hungary says Ukraine’s new school law hurts minority rights
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...555caaeb8dc_story.html?utm_term=.e2848ba3b10e

Hungary's Minister of Foreign Affairs has announced that his country will block any Ukrainian steps within the European Union after Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has signed a notorious education law that critics say will infringe on the rights of ethnic minorities.
Hungary on Ukrainian education law: "This will be painful for Ukraine"

This is an interesting dynamics. Before post Soviet Ukraine switched to western orientation, there was no big education problem there. Now that they have switched to Western European orientation, they have alienated the one ally that they used to have in the European Union. And in the same time, they gave good reason for Russian border modifications. I think the best would be at this stage is that a few days before the Ukraine will switch back to Russian orientation, the European Union annexes the lands that were Poland and Hungary in 1939. But the secret groups that control the EU will probably do different things.

The smartest thing would be to split Ukraine among the countries, which historical lands it consists of. All the nations wpuld reunite, the civil war in Donbass would automatically stop and everybody would be happy. Except for Official Kiev's puppeteers: Soros&Co, who need Ukraine as a pawn in their dirty globalist games. And misery/ corruption/ Nazis/ high criminal activities in Ukraine keep decreasing its population, which is another Globalist's goal for this miserable country. And 40 million of residents of Ukraine have to remain hostages of those Globalists' goals.

 

[ESay]

The Ukraine is not a nation state.

Ukraine has been artificially created on historical lands of many nations: Russian, Hungarian, Polish, Romanian, etc. But official Kiev wants to make Ukrainians from all those nations and to use only one language: Ukrainian:

newly enacted Ukrainian law on education places restrictions on the use of minority languages in Ukraine.
Hungary is on the warpath against Ukraine’s education law

I guess, sooner or later they will start blaming Russia for that too.

“We continue to regard as shameful and outrageous the new Education Act, which drastically restricts the access of minorities, including the Hungarian national minority, to native language teaching in a manner that makes that practically impossible from the age of 10 and is incompatible with European values and regulations”, Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade of Hungary Péter Szijjártó stressed.
Our duty is to protect the Hungarian people

Hungary says Ukraine’s new school law hurts minority rights
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...555caaeb8dc_story.html?utm_term=.e2848ba3b10e

Hungary's Minister of Foreign Affairs has announced that his country will block any Ukrainian steps within the European Union after Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has signed a notorious education law that critics say will infringe on the rights of ethnic minorities.
Hungary on Ukrainian education law: "This will be painful for Ukraine"

This is an interesting dynamics. Before post Soviet Ukraine switched to western orientation, there was no big education problem there. Now that they have switched to Western European orientation, they have alienated the one ally that they used to have in the European Union. And in the same time, they gave good reason for Russian border modifications. I think the best would be at this stage is that a few days before the Ukraine will switch back to Russian orientation, the European Union annexes the lands that were Poland and Hungary in 1939. But the secret groups that control the EU will probably do different things.

If you want to understand the reasons why contemporary Ukraine won’t be part of Russia and why it has chosen the Western orientation, you should look on much earlier times, namely the 10-11th centuries.

And why the EU should annex the lands which were Polish in 1939? Do you know who founded the city of Lvov, for example? Any guess?

 

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Nations all over Europe, especially eastern Europe share the same situation as Ukraine. The history of Europe and European wars are of continuous disputes caused by one country conquering another, even if hundreds of years ago. Pockets of ethnic demographics exist almost everywhere. Countries colonize after conquering and when the host country obtains independence from the conquering nation the remnants of that colonization remain.
People who remain in those countries as the remnants of occupation and colonization have options if they do not want to swear allegiance and become loyal citizens of the host country. They have the option of leaving and returning to the country of their ethnicity and preferred allegiance.