Russia ending Diplomatic ties with the West/

[frigidweirdo]

Incorrect. ...
Putin sent in the Russian army on a humanitarian special military operation to protect and liberate the ethnic Russian people living in the Donbas region and expose Zelensky's criminal government to the world.

Bullshit. If that were the case, he'd have taken these areas, then stopped. He didn't stop.

 

[Sunni Man]

Bullshit. If that were the case, he'd have taken these areas, then stopped. He didn't stop.

Why would Putin stop?
The Russian army doesn't occupy 100% of the Donbas yet.
Plus, the army needs to keep advancing to Odessa and then liberate/annex the isolated ethnic Russian area of Transnistria

 

[frigidweirdo]

Why would Putin stop?
The Russian army doesn't occupy 100% of the Donbas.
Plus, the army needs to keep advancing to Odessa and then liberate/annex the ethnic Russian area of Transnistria

Oh right. So.... you first said that the war was only about protecting ethnically Russians.
Now you're saying he wants to protect Transnitria. Does Transnistria have a problem? No, because it's in charge of itself.

Also if they only want to take those areas which are majority ethnically Russian, why are they bombing Kiev? Why are they attacking places that have nothing to do with these places?

Here's a map of the Ukraine by Russian status.

Why would Russia be in Kherson? Even Khakiv is not majority Russian speaking, 44% Russian speaking but 75% Ukrainian according to the 2001 census.

No, what Putin is doing doesn't make sense according to your "explanation".

 

[José]

Start calling Russia America, Eastern Europe Caribbean, NATO Warsaw Pact and Ukraine Cuba or Grenada and you'll no longer find anyone to debate the war.

The conflict will magically become 100% kosher.

 

[Death-Ninja]

You could, but you won't, because you can't.

Fuck you and Putin.

Perfectly predictable, you see these cretins believe whatever the fuck the television tells them to believe, they believe vaxx's that Phizer literally just admitted don't work, work, and they obviously believe the lies about Russia despite ample and abundant evidence as to who really started it all, and why! I will add for the umpteenth time what Mark Twain observed, "all the evidence in the world will not convince an idiot!"

 

[Sunni Man]

Oh right. So.... you first said that the war was only about protecting ethnically Russians.
Now you're saying he wants to protect Transnitria. Does Transnistria have a problem? No, because it's in charge of itself.

The majority of the Transnistria citizens want to be annexed into Russia.
That way they will be protected from invasion and occupation by Moldova, which they gone to war with before to stay independent..

 

[frigidweirdo]

The majority of the Transnistria citizens want to be annexed into Russia.
That way they will be protected from invasion and occupation by Moldova, which they gone to war with before to stay independent..

Kalingrad is a part of Russia, yes? It is not connected to the main body of Russia.
So, if the people of Transnistria want to be a part of Russia, they can just say they're a part of Russia.
Moldova doesn't have control of Transnistria.
Also, you said this war was about Russian people in the east of the Ukraine. Why are you talking about Russian people in the east of Moldova?
There's no threat right now to Transnistria from Moldova.

 

[Sunni Man]

There's no threat right now to Transnistria from Moldova.

Russia has around 1,500 peacekeeping soldiers at the request of Transnistria for the last couple of decades to guard against an armed invasion by Moldova.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Russia has around 1,500 peacekeeping soldiers at the request of Transnistria for the last couple of decades to guard against an armed invasion by Moldova.

Right.....

The thing is, Russia interferes in countries of the former USSR. Look at Kazakhstan, they had protests, Russia went in and helped stop the protests. The Putin said that Kazakhstan should say in the "greater Russian world". He essentially told the Kazakhstanis that they're a Russian satellite state whether they like it or not.

Same for the Ukraine. Putin has been interfering there almost from the start of his presidency. Poisoning people he didn't like, promoting those he did like.

Transnistria is another part of the Soviet zone that Putin wants to make his own. He has troops there because it's convenient for him, it gives Russia power in the region. Maybe it is stopping Moldova taking Transnistria, the threat of war with Russia for a country the size of Moldova is even worse than for the Ukraine.

The fact that Putin is interfering in almost every country that was a part of the USSR, and the fact that he seems intent on taking the whole of the Ukraine for that very reason, and not because of the jumped up claims he's making.

If he doesn't want NATO on his borders, then taking the Ukraine is crazy, seeing how all of the Ukraine's neighbors, except Russia and Belarus, are either in NATO or have an individual partnership action plan in place. It would literally increase the NATO border for Russia.

 

[zaangalewa]

Lavrov has announced that Russia is to take Diplomats out of the West as there is not point in having them there.

Aha - Lavrov intends to retire. And when will retire Putin, the greatest Russian stressor?




Die Verträge sind gemacht
Und es wurde viel gelacht
Und was Süsses zum Dessert
Freiheit, Freiheit.

Die Kapelle, rum-ta-ta
Und der Papst war auch schon da
Und mein Nachbar vorneweg

Freiheit, Freiheit,
Ist die einzige, die fehlt.
Freiheit, Freiheit,
Ist die einzige, die fehlt.

Der Mensch ist leider nicht naiv.
Der Mensch ist leider primitiv.

Freiheit, Freiheit,
Wurde wieder abbestellt.

Alle, die von Freiheit träumen,
Sollen′s Feiern nicht versäumen,
Sollen tanzen auch auf Gräbern.

Freiheit, Freiheit,
Ist das einzige, was zählt.
Freiheit, Freiheit,
Ist das einzige, was zählt.

 

[Viktor]

Lavrov has announced that Russia is to take Diplomats out of the West as there is not point in having them there. He would rather divert them to places where they can build up good relations.

You Can’t Force Love’: Russian Diplomats Told to Kiss the West Goodbye​

So the US and Ukraine are Refusing talks and Russia is going to take its diplomats away. Hmmmm

This never happened during 40 years of the Cold War.
Biden has screwed up something else.

 

[zaangalewa]

This never happened during 40 years of the Cold War.
Biden has screwed up something else.

The whole world is within a turn of an era now. It's a unique event which never had happened before in history. What will come no one is able to know now. When it had happened and it's over perhaps everyone will say "Totally clear that it had to happen this way".

 

[zaangalewa]

Sunni Man:
I have been reading your posts for a long time.
Now it seems you have changed your colors.
23 ¶ And it came to pass, when Joseph was come unto his brethren, that they stript Joseph out of his acoat, his coat of many colours that was on him;

Sunni Man, may the Lord be with you
I wish you, Sunni Man:
and yours
A great Day
Today and
for evermore
So help me God -​

I hope you know that Sunni Man is an anti-semitic Nazi and Islamist - and such people are normally called "godless people" because they are unscrupulous. So you should not be astonished about the results of your blessing.

 

[alexa]

I notice they have been threatening to do this since January. What exactly does it mean? Does it mean there is no way bar Biden and Putin that they can have any communication to tell the other that a certain move is not aggressive? Does it even stop relations between Biden and Putin. With countries which are talking about using nuclear bombs is this not somewhat dangerous.

Could it mean that Russia is giving up all the usual rules between countries and could basically choose to do anything it wants and there can be no comeback - in the normal way of working.

Does it mean there is no way to end this war?

They do say that they are intending on making their Diplomatic relations with other countries which they view as friendly stronger. I know both Russia and China are keen to end the West's dominance and create something where it will be left behind but what does it all mean if anyone knows?

 

[Viktor]

I notice they have been threatening to do this since January. What exactly does it mean? Does it mean there is no way bar Biden and Putin that they can have any communication to tell the other that a certain move is not aggressive? Does it even stop relations between Biden and Putin. With countries which are talking about using nuclear bombs is this not somewhat dangerous.

Could it mean that Russia is giving up all the usual rules between countries and could basically choose to do anything it wants and there can be no comeback - in the normal way of working.

Does it mean there is no way to end this war?

They do say that they are intending on making their Diplomatic relations with other countries which they view as friendly stronger. I know both Russia and China are keen to end the West's dominance and create something where it will be left behind but what does it all mean if anyone knows?

Uncle Jojo started a war of words months ago when he told a journalist that Putin is a "killer." Putin found out and laughed about it, but I bet he did not like it at all.
Jojo had no evidence to support his stupid remark of course. He just pulled it out of his ass.

 

[alexa]

Uncle Jojo started a war of words months ago when he told a journalist that Putin is a "killer." Putin found out and laughed about it, but I bet he did not like it at all.
Jojo had no evidence to support his stupid remark of course. He just pulled it out of his ass.

That would make Diplomatic relations more difficult......but not having them?

 

[zaangalewa]

Sunni Man

And what was wrong what I said about you, Holocaust denier?

 

[zaangalewa]

... Does it mean there is no way to end this war? ...

Also this is possible. The Irish had to suffer about 500 years before they came free.

 

[zaangalewa]

... Russia and China are keen to end the West's dominance and create something where it will be left behind ...

"make Russia great agian"
"make China great again"
"make Turkey great again"
"make the USA great again"
and
"make Europe little again" (England, Hungaria, Poland ... )

... all this helpless political paroles show only a lack of self-confidence and an abundance of fear and pain. ...

Why attacks the biggest country of the world and the biggest nuclear power of the world another country? What's the sense of such an absurde war? Nobody in the world is able to ignore such a behavior of Russia. And soon also no one will be able any longer to ignore the behavior of China in context with their will to conquer Taiwan.

 

[alexa]

"make Russia great agian"
"make China great again"
"make the USA great again"
and
"make Europe little again" (England, Hungaria, Poland ... )

... all this helpless political paroles show only a lack of self-confidence and an abundance of fear and pain. ...

I think they have a genuine desire to be out of the domination of the US. The way the US has been sanctioning countries who do not do what they want and sanctioning those who do not sanction is clearly something people would want sorted. Hence they will sort that. The US not being world reserve currency will lose its economic power very quickly. I don't really know how it works but at the moment thy can make as much debt as they want and then just print more money. When they are no longer reserve currency people will be wanting debts paid and the cost for paying them will go up significantly. This is more about self survival than ego.