DamnYankee
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- Apr 2, 2009
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As stated previously what is far to often called liberals in this country are in point of fact leftist.
I'm still waiting for one of these leftist dingbats to explain to me how the hell taking money and or property from a and giving it to b promotes the general welfare which is what they claim the welfare state does.
I answered above: infrastructure. If citizenship confers on the individual rights, and property is defined as one of those rights, having or allowing the sharing of that right is a function of politics. Neither conservatism nor liberalism has been able to resolve that dilemma, extremes are a third world nation or socialism. Third world status is ugly for most, and socialism is an ideal that can't deal properly with people and their nature, or the existing situation. Thus the European models of democratic socialism, at this point in history, work best as proven by the recent happiness test. And happiness is part of the preamble.
Eminent domain, to which I believe garyd was referring, is not synonymous with creating/maintaining infrastructure. For example, if a road is to be built on a mountain, it would make more sense to blast through the mountain than to steal the property of those living on the mountain to do so. The Constitution provides for "the general welfare", which means, what is best for all concerned -- not what is best for the government and screw the people.