Remember how all those islands are sinking?

[westwall]

Seems that really they aren't. In fact many of them are growing!


Climate scientists have expressed surprise at findings that many low-lying Pacific islands are growing, not sinking.

Islands in Tuvalu, Kiribati and the Federated States of Micronesia are among those which have grown, largely due to coral debris, land reclamation and sediment.

The findings, published in the magazine New Scientist, were gathered by comparing changes to 27 Pacific islands over the last 20 to 60 years using historical aerial photos and satellite images.

Auckland University's Associate Professor Paul Kench, a member of the team of scientists, says the results challenge the view that Pacific islands are sinking due to rising sea levels associated with climate change.

"Eighty per cent of the islands we've looked at have either remained about the same or, in fact, gotten larger," he said.




Pacific islands growing, not sinking - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

 

[ScienceRocks]

Interesting.

 

[RollingThunder]

Seems that really they aren't. In fact many of them are growing!

Climate scientists have expressed surprise at findings that many low-lying Pacific islands are growing, not sinking.

Islands in Tuvalu, Kiribati and the Federated States of Micronesia are among those which have grown, largely due to coral debris, land reclamation and sediment.

The findings, published in the magazine New Scientist, were gathered by comparing changes to 27 Pacific islands over the last 20 to 60 years using historical aerial photos and satellite images.

Auckland University's Associate Professor Paul Kench, a member of the team of scientists, says the results challenge the view that Pacific islands are sinking due to rising sea levels associated with climate change.

"Eighty per cent of the islands we've looked at have either remained about the same or, in fact, gotten larger," he said.

Pacific islands growing, not sinking - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Here's a few more excerpts from walleyed's article that he, strangely enough, did not include in his post. Perhaps because they further undermine the supposed point of his deceptive post. There are over 180 thousand islands on Earth and people live on over 100 thousand of them. This study walleyed cited looked at 27 of those islands in one small area of the Pacific Ocean. Conditions elsewhere vary considerably. Of the 27 islands studied, four were shrinking, 10 had grown, and 13 had remained about the same size in spite of an almost five inch rise in the local sea level in the last sixty years. Scientists involved in the study point to several natural factors (including increasingly severe storms due to climate change that send waves washing right over these very low lying islands, leaving significant amounts of sediment and coral debris on top of the islands) involved in the growth of some islands in this area, and also point to human efforts on these islands at what they call 'land reclamation', or digging up dirt and rock inland and dumping it in shallow coastal areas to create new land area.

Here's what the climate scientists are actually saying about this study, including one of the authors of that study.

"Dr Kench says the growth of the islands can keep pace with rising sea levels. "The reason for this is these islands are so low lying that in extreme events waves crash straight over the top of them," he said. "In doing that they transport sediment from the beach or adjacent reef platform and they throw it onto the top of the island." But Dr Kench says this does not mean climate change does not pose dangers. "The land may still be there but will they still be able to support human habitation?" he asked.

Adelaide University climate scientist Professor Barry Brook says he is surprised by the findings. "Sea levels are obviously rising - I think in the short term [the study] suggests that there's maybe more time to do something about the problem than we'd first anticipated," he said. "But the key problem is that sea level rise is likely to accelerate much beyond what we've seen in the 20th century." Both Dr Kench and Dr Brook and scientists agree further rises in sea levels pose a significant danger to the livelihoods of people living in Tuvalu, Kirabati and the Federated States of Micronesia.

Pacific islands growing, not sinking - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

 

[editec]

Remember how all those islands are sinking?
Seems that really they aren't. In fact many of them are growing!

Lucky them. huh?

You should buy into some of these lucky places, while the land is still cheap.

 

[westwall]

Remember how all those islands are sinking?
Seems that really they aren't. In fact many of them are growing!

Lucky them. huh?

You should buy into some of these lucky places, while the land is still cheap.

Yes indeed, the Maldives, remember them? are building a brand new airport at a cost of over 500 million. Seems to be a silly thing to do if you are sinking........no?

 

[longknife]

C'mon! You and I both know it was all a sham by the Globull Warming cabal to frighten low-information voters.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Rising sea levels is causing the islands to rise...LOL

The AGW Cult should have their own Comedy Show

 

[ScienceRocks]

Seems that really they aren't. In fact many of them are growing!

Climate scientists have expressed surprise at findings that many low-lying Pacific islands are growing, not sinking.

Islands in Tuvalu, Kiribati and the Federated States of Micronesia are among those which have grown, largely due to coral debris, land reclamation and sediment.

The findings, published in the magazine New Scientist, were gathered by comparing changes to 27 Pacific islands over the last 20 to 60 years using historical aerial photos and satellite images.

Auckland University's Associate Professor Paul Kench, a member of the team of scientists, says the results challenge the view that Pacific islands are sinking due to rising sea levels associated with climate change.

"Eighty per cent of the islands we've looked at have either remained about the same or, in fact, gotten larger," he said.

Pacific islands growing, not sinking - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Here's a few more excerpts from walleyed's article that he, strangely enough, did not include in his post. Perhaps because they further undermine the supposed point of his deceptive post. There are over 180 thousand islands on Earth and people live on over 100 thousand of them. This study walleyed cited looked at 27 of those islands in one small area of the Pacific Ocean. Conditions elsewhere vary considerably. Of the 27 islands studied, four were shrinking, 10 had grown, and 13 had remained about the same size in spite of an almost five inch rise in the local sea level in the last sixty years. Scientists involved in the study point to several natural factors (including increasingly severe storms due to climate change that send waves washing right over these very low lying islands, leaving significant amounts of sediment and coral debris on top of the islands) involved in the growth of some islands in this area, and also point to human efforts on these islands at what they call 'land reclamation', or digging up dirt and rock inland and dumping it in shallow coastal areas to create new land area.

Here's what the climate scientists are actually saying about this study, including one of the authors of that study.

"Dr Kench says the growth of the islands can keep pace with rising sea levels. "The reason for this is these islands are so low lying that in extreme events waves crash straight over the top of them," he said. "In doing that they transport sediment from the beach or adjacent reef platform and they throw it onto the top of the island." But Dr Kench says this does not mean climate change does not pose dangers. "The land may still be there but will they still be able to support human habitation?" he asked.

Adelaide University climate scientist Professor Barry Brook says he is surprised by the findings. "Sea levels are obviously rising - I think in the short term [the study] suggests that there's maybe more time to do something about the problem than we'd first anticipated," he said. "But the key problem is that sea level rise is likely to accelerate much beyond what we've seen in the 20th century." Both Dr Kench and Dr Brook and scientists agree further rises in sea levels pose a significant danger to the livelihoods of people living in Tuvalu, Kirabati and the Federated States of Micronesia.

Pacific islands growing, not sinking - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Good post with solid scientific reasoning for what's happening.

 

[RollingThunder]

C'mon! You and I both know it was all a sham by the Globull Warming cabal to frighten low-information voters.

LOLOLOL.....too funny

In denier cult bizarro-world lingo:
"GW cabal" = virtually all of the world's climate scientists plus most of the rest of the world scientific community.
"low information voters" = everybody who knows more about the facts about AGW than the deniers do.

11 Islands That Will Vanish When Sea Levels Rise
Business Insider
Randy Astaiza
Oct. 12, 2012
(excerpts)
According to the EPA, global sea level has risen by eight inches since 1870. This change is already affecting many low lying islands that have had to adapt. Some populations are moving to higher areas, or are trying to buy land from other countries to migrate its citizens, and some have even developed new ways of farming to protect their agriculture. 2007 estimates from the Intergovernmental Panel On Climate Change's most conservative estimates suggest that global sea level will reach increase 8 to 16 inches above 1990 levels by 2090. The National Academy of Sciences predictions from 2009 suggest that by 2100, sea level could increase by anywhere from 16 inches to 56 inches, depending how the Earth responds to changing climate.

Kiribati - The president of Kiribati, Anote Tong, is in talks with Fiji's military government to buy up to 5,000 acres of land in order to relocate the 102,697 people that live in his country. President Tong tells The Telegraph that this is their last resort: "Our people will have to move as the tides have reached our homes and villages." Kiribati is about halfway between Hawaii and Australia and is made up of 32 low-lying atolls and one raised island. Most of its population has already moved to one island, Tarawam, after the rest of their land disappeared beneath the ocean. Villagers on Abaiang, one of the Kiribati Islands, had to relocate the entire village of Tebunginako because of rising seas and erosion. Seychelles - Seychelles consists of 115 granite and coral islands in the western Indian Ocean, with a population of 87,122. Scuba diver Micheal Espron tells The National: "The water used to be farther out. Soon, the water will be right up into the hotel." He also says that tourism will be affected when there are no beaches left around the islands. Locals remember that there used to be much more land for people, but now tourists are seen cramming into the small area of beaches that remain. A rise of just three feet would submerge the Maldives and make them uninhabitable.

 

[gslack]

BLunder stop spamming with big font...

So basically your post and cherry-picked claims say.. Despite the fact the islands mass is increasing, they are still shrinking anyway because somehow the stuff washed up on the beaches is making the islands bigger fast enough to counter any sea level rise at this time...

And the assumed sea level rise is somehow still a scary scenario??????

ROFL. you guys get good news that things aren't as bad as they feared, and you don't like it..

 

[ScienceRocks]

BLunder stop spamming with big font...

So basically your post and cherry-picked claims say.. Despite the fact the islands mass is increasing, they are still shrinking anyway because somehow the stuff washed up on the beaches is making the islands bigger fast enough to counter any sea level rise at this time...

And the assumed sea level rise is somehow still a scary scenario??????

ROFL. you guys get good news that things aren't as bad as they feared, and you don't like it..

These islands are very "shallow" so they act like a mound in a river. The water moves over it and shit gets collected on top of it.

This is causes these islands to "grow" even through the ocean is rising very slowly. The rate of growth of the collection of material is faster then the rate of rise of the oceans.

 

[RollingThunder]

These islands are very "shallow" so they act like a mound in a river. The water moves over it and shit gets collected on top of it.

This is causes these islands to "grow" even through the ocean is rising very slowly. The rate of growth of the collection of material is faster then the rate of rise of the oceans.

Slight correction for clarity:
"The rate of growth of the collection of material is faster then the rate of rise of the oceans" at this point in time, but the rate of sea level rise is predicted to increase considerably in coming decades.

 

[westwall]

BLunder stop spamming with big font...

So basically your post and cherry-picked claims say.. Despite the fact the islands mass is increasing, they are still shrinking anyway because somehow the stuff washed up on the beaches is making the islands bigger fast enough to counter any sea level rise at this time...

And the assumed sea level rise is somehow still a scary scenario??????

ROFL. you guys get good news that things aren't as bad as they feared, and you don't like it..

These islands are very "shallow" so they act like a mound in a river. The water moves over it and shit gets collected on top of it.

This is causes these islands to "grow" even through the ocean is rising very slowly. The rate of growth of the collection of material is faster then the rate of rise of the oceans.

Ummmmm, sure. Where does all of this material come from? Why do storms not wash it all out to sea again?

 

[westwall]

These islands are very "shallow" so they act like a mound in a river. The water moves over it and shit gets collected on top of it.

This is causes these islands to "grow" even through the ocean is rising very slowly. The rate of growth of the collection of material is faster then the rate of rise of the oceans.

Slight correction for clarity:
"The rate of growth of the collection of material is faster then the rate of rise of the oceans" at this point in time, but the rate of sea level rise is predicted to increase considerably in coming decades.

Predicted to rise, but in actual fact ocean levels are holding steady or slightly dropping....

 

[boedicca]

But, but, but.....Guam could still capsize if it gets overpopulated.

 

[ScienceRocks]

It's going up about 3.2 mm/year on the means
CU Sea Level Research Group | University of Colorado

 

[RollingThunder]

These islands are very "shallow" so they act like a mound in a river. The water moves over it and shit gets collected on top of it.

This is causes these islands to "grow" even through the ocean is rising very slowly. The rate of growth of the collection of material is faster then the rate of rise of the oceans.

Slight correction for clarity:
"The rate of growth of the collection of material is faster then the rate of rise of the oceans" at this point in time, but the rate of sea level rise is predicted to increase considerably in coming decades.

Predicted to rise, but in actual fact ocean levels are holding steady or slightly dropping....

I'm curious, walleyed, do you just like to lie all the time or are you just too ignorant, stupid and brainwashed to be able to even know when you're lying anymore?

Sea level is rising at an increasing rate
NOAA
Revised January 11, 2013
(GOVERNMENT PUBLICATION - not under copyright - free to reproduce)
There is strong evidence that global sea level is now rising at an increased rate and will continue to rise during this century.

While studies show that sea levels changed little from AD 0 until 1900, sea levels began to climb in the 20th century.

The two major causes of global sea-level rise are thermal expansion caused by the warming of the oceans (since water expands as it warms) and the loss of land-based ice (such as glaciers and polar ice caps) due to increased melting.

Records and research show that sea level has been steadily rising at a rate of 1 to 2.5 millimeters (0.04 to 0.1 inches) per year since 1900.

This rate may be increasing. Since 1992, new methods of satellite altimetry (the measurement of elevation or altitude) indicate a rate of rise of 3 millimeters (0.12 inches) per year.

This is a significantly larger rate than the sea-level rise averaged over the last several thousand years.

 

[gslack]

BLunder stop spamming with big font...

So basically your post and cherry-picked claims say.. Despite the fact the islands mass is increasing, they are still shrinking anyway because somehow the stuff washed up on the beaches is making the islands bigger fast enough to counter any sea level rise at this time...

And the assumed sea level rise is somehow still a scary scenario??????

ROFL. you guys get good news that things aren't as bad as they feared, and you don't like it..

These islands are very "shallow" so they act like a mound in a river. The water moves over it and shit gets collected on top of it.

This is causes these islands to "grow" even through the ocean is rising very slowly. The rate of growth of the collection of material is faster then the rate of rise of the oceans.

Yeah we got that part.. The problem is it's a ridiculous claim that the small amount of debris accumulated in such a manner and the rate at which it would, somehow outgrows the claimed projected sea level rise. The same waves that bring in sediments and debris, also washes away some sediments and debris, and cause erosion...Forgot about erosion didn't you...

The point is that would not be enough or happen fast enough to counter act proposed sea level rise projections. Meaning the projections are inaccurate..

 

[gslack]

Slight correction for clarity:
"The rate of growth of the collection of material is faster then the rate of rise of the oceans" at this point in time, but the rate of sea level rise is predicted to increase considerably in coming decades.

Predicted to rise, but in actual fact ocean levels are holding steady or slightly dropping....

I'm curious, walleyed, do you just like to lie all the time or are you just too ignorant, stupid and brainwashed to be able to even know when you're lying anymore?

Sea level is rising at an increasing rate
NOAA
Revised January 11, 2013
(GOVERNMENT PUBLICATION - not under copyright - free to reproduce)
There is strong evidence that global sea level is now rising at an increased rate and will continue to rise during this century.

While studies show that sea levels changed little from AD 0 until 1900, sea levels began to climb in the 20th century.

The two major causes of global sea-level rise are thermal expansion caused by the warming of the oceans (since water expands as it warms) and the loss of land-based ice (such as glaciers and polar ice caps) due to increased melting.

Records and research show that sea level has been steadily rising at a rate of 1 to 2.5 millimeters (0.04 to 0.1 inches) per year since 1900.

This rate may be increasing. Since 1992, new methods of satellite altimetry (the measurement of elevation or altitude) indicate a rate of rise of 3 millimeters (0.12 inches) per year.

This is a significantly larger rate than the sea-level rise averaged over the last several thousand years.

There is strong evidence that global sea level is now rising at an increased rate and will continue to rise during this century.

Yes not proof just strong evidence.. meaning not a fact, but a theory, thank you for clarifying blunder..

 

[RollingThunder]

BLunder stop spamming with big font...

So basically your post and cherry-picked claims say.. Despite the fact the islands mass is increasing, they are still shrinking anyway because somehow the stuff washed up on the beaches is making the islands bigger fast enough to counter any sea level rise at this time...

And the assumed sea level rise is somehow still a scary scenario??????

ROFL. you guys get good news that things aren't as bad as they feared, and you don't like it..

These islands are very "shallow" so they act like a mound in a river. The water moves over it and shit gets collected on top of it.

This is causes these islands to "grow" even through the ocean is rising very slowly. The rate of growth of the collection of material is faster then the rate of rise of the oceans.

Yeah we got that part.. The problem is it's a ridiculous claim that the small amount of debris accumulated in such a manner and the rate at which it would, somehow outgrows the claimed projected sea level rise. The same waves that bring in sediments and debris, also washes away some sediments and debris, and cause erosion...Forgot about erosion didn't you...

The point is that would not be enough or happen fast enough to counter act proposed sea level rise projections. Meaning the projections are inaccurate..

LOL....no, no, slackjawedidiot, "meaning" you are once more far too stupid to understand the science, that's all.