Religious pic removed from public school, justice prevails

[Derideo_Te]

I guess Peach missed the irony of the 10th Commandment being 180 degrees out of sync with the unfettered capitalism that has made this nation great.

What was that drivel about the Founding Fathers basing the BoR on the 10 Commandments again?

So how come they didn't outlaw consumerism and capitalism?

Yet another crash and burn for the bible bashers distortions about the founding of this nation.

It went over head about Credit, which is what I was referring to.
Progressives - founded the Federal Reserve
Federal Reserve issued credit so that people did not know anything all about the stock market could get into trading on Wall St. Then came the crash.
Then came the credit cards and we now have $916.6 Billion in credit card debt.
All created by Progressives.

Why am I not in the least bit surprised to discover that you are just as ignorant about how capitalism and finance actually work in this nation?

It wasn't the Federal Reserve extending credit for those predatory subprime mortgage scams. That funding came directly from the republican deregulated Wall Street Casino banks.

And no, I don't expect you to understand the difference and you are not paying me to educate you either.

You obviously get all of your disinformation from extremist rightwing sources that have zero credibility.

Of course you wont see it.
Anyone who has an opposing view point than yours is wrong, uneducated or stupid. (A true progressive, my way is only right)
You are one getting your disinformation from the extreme left wing sources.
I have gotten mine from actual history books not misinform from the internet.

Who wrote those books of yours? Ann Coulter?

I have decades of experience in the financial sector. The Federal Reserve doesn't issue credit to individuals. It lends money to banks and holds reserves for them against potential losses.

Thank you for disqualifying yourself utterly and completely on this topic.

Have a nice day.

I don't read Ann Coulter
You speculate and assume too much.
Federal Reserve System: The Concise Encyclopedia of Economics | Library of Economics and Liberty
The original Federal Reserve Act became law in December 1913. The “Federal” in the title implied that the law applied to the whole country, and “Reserve” emphasized the new institution’s role as a reserve holder and reserve supplier for the commercial banking system. The twelve regional Federal Reserve Banks, according to the Federal Reserve Act, were “to furnish an elastic currency” by

discounting notes, drafts, and bills of exchange arising out of actual commercial transactions.. . . The time, character, and volume of sales of [this eligible] paper . . . shall be governed with a view to accommodating commerce and business and with regard to their bearing upon the general credit situation of the country.

under Democratic sponsorship, the new institution could be an autonomous group of regional reserve-holding supercommercial banks, and the act passed through Congress in this guise.

How much of that did you comprehend?

 

[Derideo_Te]

I guess Peach missed the irony of the 10th Commandment being 180 degrees out of sync with the unfettered capitalism that has made this nation great.

What was that drivel about the Founding Fathers basing the BoR on the 10 Commandments again?

So how come they didn't outlaw consumerism and capitalism?

Yet another crash and burn for the bible bashers distortions about the founding of this nation.

It went over head about Credit, which is what I was referring to.
Progressives - founded the Federal Reserve
Federal Reserve issued credit so that people did not know anything all about the stock market could get into trading on Wall St. Then came the crash.
Then came the credit cards and we now have $916.6 Billion in credit card debt.
All created by Progressives.

Why am I not in the least bit surprised to discover that you are just as ignorant about how capitalism and finance actually work in this nation?

It wasn't the Federal Reserve extending credit for those predatory subprime mortgage scams. That funding came directly from the republican deregulated Wall Street Casino banks.

And no, I don't expect you to understand the difference and you are not paying me to educate you either.

You obviously get all of your disinformation from extremist rightwing sources that have zero credibility.

Of course you wont see it.
Anyone who has an opposing view point than yours is wrong, uneducated or stupid. (A true progressive, my way is only right)
You are one getting your disinformation from the extreme left wing sources.
I have gotten mine from actual history books not misinform from the internet.

Who wrote those books of yours? Ann Coulter?

I have decades of experience in the financial sector. The Federal Reserve doesn't issue credit to individuals. It lends money to banks and holds reserves for them against potential losses.

Thank you for disqualifying yourself utterly and completely on this topic.

Have a nice day.

I never said that the Federal Reserve issued credit to individuals.

Actually you said exactly that!

"Federal Reserve issued credit so that people did not know anything all about the stock market could get into trading on Wall St. "

 

[Uncensored2008]

Which individual had their right to expression censored?

The individuals that hung the picture and asked that it remain.

Are you simply being obtuse?

You of the left are waging war on civil rights, those who support the notion of liberty are duty bound to resist you and your party.

 

[ogibillm]

Which individual had their right to expression censored?

The individuals that hung the picture and asked that it remain.

Are you simply being obtuse?

You of the left are waging war on civil rights, those who support the notion of liberty are duty bound to resist you and your party.

What makes you think their right to individual expression allows them to place a picture in the school?

 

[daws101]

It is a violation of the 1st Amendment establishment clause to have that picture on display in a government building.

Too bad you aren't smart enough to figure that out for yourself.

Then all of the displays of Moses & Solomon including the 10 commandments needs to be torn down from the Supreme Court and the House and Senate Chaplain needs to go.
Never mind we have had one ever since we became a Nation in 1776.

I agree. shouldn't be a chaplain or 10 Commandments.

They need to be ripped-out by the roots.

Yeah we sure wouldn't want to teach nor promote these moral things.
5 “Honor your father and your mother
6 “You shall not murder.
7 “You shall not commit adultery.
8 “You shall not steal.
9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10 “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”

The 1st four can be ignored if you don't believe.
Like every one who has done so since the beginning of our nation who did not believe in any religion. They all believed in the teachings of the last 5.
The display of the 10 commandments does not force you to go to church. Nor does it make you believe in God.
At least they knew and was taught why it was so important, in order for America to be a free nation.

Not like we have now when each neighbor is trying to out do each other in their material possession when they don't have the money to do so.
You know the old saying. Live within your means.

The 10 commandments are a distillation of customs followed by many cultures at the time .there is no evidence they were written by Moses.
The rules laid out are good and pratical.
That's why the FFs used them as inspiration
The source is irrelevant.

Correction
God wrote them, not Moses.

even less evidence for that.

 

[daws101]

Which individual had their right to expression censored?

The individuals that hung the picture and asked that it remain.

Are you simply being obtuse?

You of the left are waging war on civil rights, those who support the notion of liberty are duty bound to resist you and your party.

Thanks Mr melodrama!

 

[daws101]

I blame our Courts on this because of the court ruling that got rid of religion in the public schools.
They now can not teach the religious affiliations of our founders, nor teach how much they relied on God's guidance, especially during the Revolutionary War.
He does not even know that a deist and theist are different, he thinks they are the same thing.
This is one of millions of examples of dumbing down our education system by the left.

One of my favorite Jefferson quotes is;

"But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."

-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

The modern leftist zeal to outlaw any religious faith is not consistent with reason.

Religion is not consistent with fact evidence or reason.
It's vain and hipocritcal to defend an idology you don't believe in.

 

[Agit8r]

The Freedom From Religion Foundation is a national organization dedicated to the principle of separation of church and state.

Ryan Jayne, a spokesman for the foundation’s legal department, said he thinks it’s “wonderful” that the district responded the way it did and as quickly as it did.

Read more here: Chanute residents protest removal of picture of Jesus from school

pic should have never been displayed in the first place.

It's amazing the nonsense that come out these fascists' mouths:

' Non-Christian students were always allowed to sit out the Pledge of Allegiance or skip the annual Christmas movie for religious reasons, said Samantha Barnhart, another Royster alumna who also works at the cafe. “If you have the right to not participate, we have the right to keep our picture up,” she said. “Just don’t look at it.” '

Wow!

Dumb and dumber!

I noticed that one of the people they talked to was a "fur trapper"

Is that still a real thing?

 

[Derideo_Te]

The Freedom From Religion Foundation is a national organization dedicated to the principle of separation of church and state.

Ryan Jayne, a spokesman for the foundation’s legal department, said he thinks it’s “wonderful” that the district responded the way it did and as quickly as it did.

Read more here: Chanute residents protest removal of picture of Jesus from school

pic should have never been displayed in the first place.

It's amazing the nonsense that come out these fascists' mouths:

' Non-Christian students were always allowed to sit out the Pledge of Allegiance or skip the annual Christmas movie for religious reasons, said Samantha Barnhart, another Royster alumna who also works at the cafe. “If you have the right to not participate, we have the right to keep our picture up,” she said. “Just don’t look at it.” '

Wow!

Dumb and dumber!

I noticed that one of the people they talked to was a "fur trapper"

Is that still a real thing?

Maybe it is just a fancy name for someone who catches rats and squirrels around there.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Religion is not consistent with fact evidence or reason.

Neither are comic book movies, yet should you leftists seek to outlaw them, I will oppose you.

I don't care what you believe, I care when you move to censor and infringe the beliefs of others.

Look, leftism is totalitarian by nature, you must control the thoughts and actions of others. I understand. The concept that there is a power higher than the party or the state offends you, as the idea that fealty to some god would exceed the allegiance to the party. I understand exactly why you of the left are so hostile to freedom of religion. First is your general aversion to liberty, but beyond this is the anger that any should view some sort of god as greater than the party and the rulers spawned of the party.

It's vain and hipocritcal to defend an idology you don't believe in.

I defend liberty, you seek to end liberty - ergo we clash.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Maybe it is just a fancy name for someone who catches rats and squirrels around there.

Uh oh, where's Rati? Anyone seen her today?

 

[ogibillm]

Religion is not consistent with fact evidence or reason.

Neither are comic book movies, yet should you leftists seek to outlaw them, I will oppose you.

I don't care what you believe, I care when you move to censor and infringe the beliefs of others.

Look, leftism is totalitarian by nature, you must control the thoughts and actions of others. I understand. The concept that there is a power higher than the party or the state offends you, as the idea that fealty to some god would exceed the allegiance to the party. I understand exactly why you of the left are so hostile to freedom of religion. First is your general aversion to liberty, but beyond this is the anger that any should view some sort of god as greater than the party and the rulers spawned of the party.

It's vain and hipocritcal to defend an idology you don't believe in.

I defend liberty, you seek to end liberty - ergo we clash.

Nobody has had their beliefs censored

 

[Uncensored2008]

Nobody has had their beliefs censored

This thread is about you of the left denying the freedom of expression to others based on religion. You indeed censored a picture of Jesus.

When have you scheduled the book burning?

 

[Agit8r]

The Freedom From Religion Foundation is a national organization dedicated to the principle of separation of church and state.

Ryan Jayne, a spokesman for the foundation’s legal department, said he thinks it’s “wonderful” that the district responded the way it did and as quickly as it did.

Read more here: Chanute residents protest removal of picture of Jesus from school

pic should have never been displayed in the first place.

It's amazing the nonsense that come out these fascists' mouths:

' Non-Christian students were always allowed to sit out the Pledge of Allegiance or skip the annual Christmas movie for religious reasons, said Samantha Barnhart, another Royster alumna who also works at the cafe. “If you have the right to not participate, we have the right to keep our picture up,” she said. “Just don’t look at it.” '

Wow!

Dumb and dumber!

I noticed that one of the people they talked to was a "fur trapper"

Is that still a real thing?

Maybe it is just a fancy name for someone who catches rats and squirrels around there.

If it were in like Siberia or something, I could see that... But in Kansas?

I'm surprised he isn't featured in a show on Discovery, or the History Channel.

 

[ogibillm]

Nobody has had their beliefs censored

This thread is about you of the left denying the freedom of expression to others based on religion. You indeed censored a picture of Jesus.

When have you scheduled the book burning?

the thread is about the removal of a painting. the image wasn't censored. it was removed from the school since the school had no business owning and displaying it.

let's say some bizarre principal wants to worship satan. you're good with a idealized painting of satan hanging in an elementary school?

 

[Derideo_Te]

Read more here: Chanute residents protest removal of picture of Jesus from school

pic should have never been displayed in the first place.

It's amazing the nonsense that come out these fascists' mouths:

' Non-Christian students were always allowed to sit out the Pledge of Allegiance or skip the annual Christmas movie for religious reasons, said Samantha Barnhart, another Royster alumna who also works at the cafe. “If you have the right to not participate, we have the right to keep our picture up,” she said. “Just don’t look at it.” '

Wow!

Dumb and dumber!

I noticed that one of the people they talked to was a "fur trapper"

Is that still a real thing?

Maybe it is just a fancy name for someone who catches rats and squirrels around there.

If it were in like Siberia or something, I could see that... But in Kansas?

I'm surprised he isn't featured in a show on Discovery, or the History Channel.

Reality show on Faux?

 

[Uncensored2008]

the image wasn't censored. it was removed from the school since the school had no business owning and displaying it.

You grasp that that is the definition of censorship, right?

let's say some bizarre principal wants to worship satan. you're good with a idealized painting of satan hanging in an elementary school?

Pictures of Satan are common in public schools.

 

[Agit8r]

It's amazing the nonsense that come out these fascists' mouths:

' Non-Christian students were always allowed to sit out the Pledge of Allegiance or skip the annual Christmas movie for religious reasons, said Samantha Barnhart, another Royster alumna who also works at the cafe. “If you have the right to not participate, we have the right to keep our picture up,” she said. “Just don’t look at it.” '

Wow!

Dumb and dumber!

I noticed that one of the people they talked to was a "fur trapper"

Is that still a real thing?

Maybe it is just a fancy name for someone who catches rats and squirrels around there.

If it were in like Siberia or something, I could see that... But in Kansas?

I'm surprised he isn't featured in a show on Discovery, or the History Channel.

Reality show on Faux?

I'm picturing him with a coon-skin cap, hanging with Fox and Friends

 

[daws101]

Religion is not consistent with fact evidence or reason.

Neither are comic book movies, yet should you leftists seek to outlaw them, I will oppose you.

I don't care what you believe, I care when you move to censor and infringe the beliefs of others.

Look, leftism is totalitarian by nature, you must control the thoughts and actions of others. I understand. The concept that there is a power higher than the party or the state offends you, as the idea that fealty to some god would exceed the allegiance to the party. I understand exactly why you of the left are so hostile to freedom of religion. First is your general aversion to liberty, but beyond this is the anger that any should view some sort of god as greater than the party and the rulers spawned of the party.

It's vain and hipocritcal to defend an idology you don't believe in.

I defend liberty, you seek to end liberty - ergo we clash.

false ......no body worships and is willing to kill over an imaginary character except the religious.
you defend nothing ,in fact you blather about nothing.

 

[ogibillm]

the image wasn't censored. it was removed from the school since the school had no business owning and displaying it.

You grasp that that is the definition of censorship, right?

let's say some bizarre principal wants to worship satan. you're good with a idealized painting of satan hanging in an elementary school?

Pictures of Satan are common in public schools.

yeah, cartoon devils aren't exactly the same thing. you know that
so is that acceptable? for a principal to put up a picture of their particular deity, whatever it is, in the school? you're okay with him putting a picture of stalin with a halo over his head up in the hallway?